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News like this further make the case that the GPRD is mainly protectionist legislation that mainly benefits EU corporations. The EU doesn’t really care about th

News like this further make the case that the GPRD is mainly protectionist legislation that mainly benefits EU corporations. The EU doesn’t really care about the privacy of their citizens regardless of the virtue signaling.

byroot 3y ago
No it doesn't. EU is a large union of 27 countries. France is having a big authoritarian turn that started after the 2015 terror attacks, and it accelerated under Macron. That law would certainly not pass in the majority of EU countries. Additionally, even though I believe this law is terrible, you can't compare a for profit company collecting information on ALL its users, and a police service collecting information on a few thousands people after a judge allowed them to.
- nehal3m 3y ago
  >you can't compare a for profit company collecting information on ALL its users, and a police service collecting information on a few thousands people after a judge allowed them to. I'm not entirely sure about that. If data is legally collected by a company, who's to say the government can't legally purchase it for their own ends?
  - cccbbbaaa 3y ago
    Under GDPR, if you process personal data, you are required to have a clear scope: which data, why, for how long is it retained, under which legal basis (articles 5 and 6), etc. Selling data later would be a misappropriation of legal basis. More info here: https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/principles-gdpr/purpose-data-processing/can-we-use-data-another-purpose_en https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/r...
    - nehal3m 3y ago
      Interesting, that's good to know. What happens if the state decides to appropriate the data rather than sell it?
- 2rsf 3y ago
  > That law would certainly not pass in the majority of EU countries. Even for a specific purpose and specified people, approved by a judge?
  - byroot 3y ago
    Maybe I'm being too optimistic on the majority of them not approving such a law, but in many countries, notably Germany, I think that wouldn't fly, but I may be wrong. As usual these laws start by being applicable to only terrorists, to make it easy to pass, and then years later their scope is extended...
nehal3m 3y ago
If you're going to critique it you might as well get the acronym right. It's GDPR, not GPRD.
hindsightbias 3y ago
Every multinational corp has to treat everyone a GPDR now if they have a single EU customer. There’s no affordable way for most to separate policies.

byroot 3y ago

No it doesn't. EU is a large union of 27 countries. France is having a big authoritarian turn that started after the 2015 terror attacks, and it accelerated under Macron. That law would certainly not pass in the majority of EU countries. Additionally, even though I believe this law is terrible, you can't compare a for profit company collecting information on ALL its users, and a police service collecting information on a few thousands people after a judge allowed them to.

nehal3m 3y ago
>you can't compare a for profit company collecting information on ALL its users, and a police service collecting information on a few thousands people after a judge allowed them to. I'm not entirely sure about that. If data is legally collected by a company, who's to say the government can't legally purchase it for their own ends?
- cccbbbaaa 3y ago
  Under GDPR, if you process personal data, you are required to have a clear scope: which data, why, for how long is it retained, under which legal basis (articles 5 and 6), etc. Selling data later would be a misappropriation of legal basis. More info here: https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/principles-gdpr/purpose-data-processing/can-we-use-data-another-purpose_en https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/r...
  - nehal3m 3y ago
    Interesting, that's good to know. What happens if the state decides to appropriate the data rather than sell it?
2rsf 3y ago
> That law would certainly not pass in the majority of EU countries. Even for a specific purpose and specified people, approved by a judge?
- byroot 3y ago
  Maybe I'm being too optimistic on the majority of them not approving such a law, but in many countries, notably Germany, I think that wouldn't fly, but I may be wrong. As usual these laws start by being applicable to only terrorists, to make it easy to pass, and then years later their scope is extended...

nehal3m 3y ago

If you're going to critique it you might as well get the acronym right. It's GDPR, not GPRD.

hindsightbias 3y ago

Every multinational corp has to treat everyone a GPDR now if they have a single EU customer. There’s no affordable way for most to separate policies.