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I must say, the number of people in here saying bluesky is dead because of Threads' overnight growth is surprising and upsetting. Believing all that matters is
by dkh 3y ago
I must say, the number of people in here saying bluesky is dead because of Threads' overnight growth is surprising and upsetting. Believing all that matters is how fast they get users is hugely missing the point. Bluesky has been taking their time in order to get things right--and getting certain things right is very important. Twitter already exists; we need alternatives because things were handled wrong.
For example, Bluesky right now is ironing out a fairly novel moderation system. They are doing this not only transparently, but with the input and active involvement of the users. This takes time and it is also wise to complete moderation systems before opening the app up to everyone. Ineffective (or nonexistent?!) moderation systems are one of the biggest issues people have with many/most platforms including Twitter, and it is more important that they get it right than they get a zillion users overnight.
Crowning whichever one can "move faster and break things" as the winner is the wrong approach, and demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about the problems plaguing Twitter and other platforms.
Honestly, Threads and Bluesky are barely comparable given how different they are philosophically and on a lot of very fundamental levels.
- fnord77 3y agobluesky is a popular-kids club with zero transparency unless you're in the club
- cyberge99 3y agoI’m still waiting for an invite.
- blitzar 3y agoI have given up waiting for an invite. Its clubhouse all over again.
- areoform 3y agoI am happy to send you an invite! Message me :)
- jslpc 3y agoSame with me, signed up for the waitlist months ago. Even asked around about buying an invite code but that just seemed a bit sketchy for me, it's so easy to get scammed doing that. I'd love an invite eventually so I could try it out and really form an opinion on the whole Threads vs Bluesky vs Twitter drama, but I fear it's going to take much longer and I'll lose interest entirely. Which is a shame because I actually really like Twitter and have actively used it for 10+ years, but man Elon is making it really easy for me to jump ship somewhere.
- hiidrew 3y agoI've got some, happy to share. Plz dm me on the bird app.
- crossroadsguy 3y agoI have come to realise that sometimes you should just miss the forest for the trees. Because without the trees there will be no forest and. A social network is the forest.
- gls2ro 3y agoIMO social media websites lives or dies by network effect if threads get hundred million people in a short period and they start to write and interact with each other then that a good moat for them. Might be that BlueSky is not trying to be a popular social media platform. But if they want to then having right now their signup closed is a very bad decision. It is already hard to keep track of where each discussion is: twitter, mastodon, instagram, facebook, linkedin ... I think people are maybe trying one more from what they currently have. look at Clubhouse - they tried the invitation idea and died with it in their hands. When having so many platforms available almost no one waits for yet another one for 3 months to get their handle to finally talk with 10%of their existing network as their other 90% still waits their invitation.
- layer8 3y agoYet users use HN, Discord, and many other forums. I think "there can be only one" is what's misguided.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoDiscord is not comparable to a forum at all. It’s a messaging app first and foremost. Anyone attempting to use it as a forum is shoving a square peg into a round hole with a screwdriver.
- brokenbyclouds 3y agoAre you including Discord in the list of people using Discord as a forums? https://discord.com/blog/forum-channels-space-for-organized-conversation https://discord.com/blog/forum-channels-space-for-organized-... Not trying to be sarcastic, just haven't had a chance to use this feature and wasn't sure if you were taking that into account.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoForum channels are a bandaid solution for those people who refuse to use proper forums. It’s alright at what it does but it’s hardly the same. Far closer to ”Issues” on GitHub. In fact that’s mainly what I see it used for, issues and documentation that would benefit from its own indexable websites.
- syntheweave 3y agoCalling early winners is a longstanding pastime of tech...the Internet protocol stack was the dark horse candidate in telecom circles back in the 80's. Apple was "done for" in the mid-90's, in the same boat as Commodore, Atari and all the rest. The reason to engage like this is basically a mindless chasing after of hierarchy: you want everyone to know who their overlord is now. This is very important to a certain kind of mind in a certain kind of position, because they will start engaging with that as if it were already true and make business decisions presuming the winner...and to be right, everyone else needs to go along with it. Otherwise they're the weird guy at the meeting, talking about the also-ran.
- ciabattabread 3y ago> For example, Bluesky right now is ironing out a fairly novel moderation system. They are doing this not only transparently, but with the input and active involvement of the users. So the old Slashdot moderation system, only with multiple layers?