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90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow, while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for. Decentralized platforms are the only way to go, eve

90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow, while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for. Decentralized platforms are the only way to go, even if it's the centralized version and vision. The Zucc way of ramming (overly) suggested content and ads down your throat will die if there are alternatives.

fastball 3y ago
> Decentralized platforms are the way to go even if it is centralized Wat.
- botanical 3y ago
  Probably as in you can move your account to another server seamlessly. Mastodon also relies on "centralised" servers; none of them are p2p
  - agnosticmantis 3y ago
    Isn’t that federation?
    - didntcheck 3y ago
      Just federated identity, like OpenID. It doesn't necessitate distributed systems with communicating backends, like Mastodon or Usenet, just that it allows the user to bring their own IdP and therefore to have "sovereignty" to verify their own identity across platforms. The alternate route is to have users cryptographically certify their registrations post-hoc, e.g. Keybase
- 8organicbits 3y ago
  You cropped the key part > ... centralized version and vision
justapassenger 3y ago
They announced that more feed options, including followers only are coming. They rushed to market.
- atq2119 3y ago
  Considering that "followed only" is far simpler to build, that's a pretty lame excuse and doesn't do anything to change my opinion about whether they're priorities are healthy.
  - justapassenger 3y ago
    I’m not a fan of that decision either. But I can understand why they added it first. Otherwise, when you sign up, you have empty feed and it’ll take a long time for you to get enough of content, as others subscribe, you follow them and they start posting. With this decision they ensured you have content from the day one. Often irrelevant (which is risky), but TBH, I’ve found their algorithm to be ok. I’ll drop it as soon as possible, but for v0, I’m ok with it.
guraf 3y ago
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- _nhynes 3y ago
  A less uncharitable interpretation of the parent comment is that decentralized platforms are the only way to guarantee personal freedom, save a saintly BDFL or government regulation. Not likely to happen. The “even if it’s the centralized version” is an acknowledgement that some users may prefer centralization, or the platform is still too young to usefully decentralize. As long as there is a way out, or a credible plan, freedom is preserved. The third Matrix succeeded due to choice—even at the subconscious level.
femiagbabiaka 3y ago
I thought Bluesky was only decentralized in theory. Have alternative open source servers been released?
- s3krit 3y ago
  They've launched the 'sandbox' which is the federated/decentralised dev/staging environment. So yes, you can run your own PDS (server) and have it federate with others, but it's still very much in development and 'here be dragons' https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds/blob/main/SANDBOX.md https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds/blob/main/SANDBOX.md
  - femiagbabiaka 3y ago
    Super cool!
troupo 3y ago
> while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for Not exactly. They can't even show you full timelines: https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3jzsdcorxx42n https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3jzsdcorxx42n
- inpdx 3y ago
  Trivial to code up a custom feed to show however long you want.
  - troupo 3y ago
    wat? Also: I'm definitely not going to code anything?
bowsamic 3y ago
> 90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow Most people want this though. They don't just want to see people they follow, they want to be served an endless stream of takes and fight videos

fastball 3y ago

> Decentralized platforms are the way to go even if it is centralized Wat.

botanical 3y ago
Probably as in you can move your account to another server seamlessly. Mastodon also relies on "centralised" servers; none of them are p2p
- agnosticmantis 3y ago
  Isn’t that federation?
  - didntcheck 3y ago
    Just federated identity, like OpenID. It doesn't necessitate distributed systems with communicating backends, like Mastodon or Usenet, just that it allows the user to bring their own IdP and therefore to have "sovereignty" to verify their own identity across platforms. The alternate route is to have users cryptographically certify their registrations post-hoc, e.g. Keybase
8organicbits 3y ago
You cropped the key part > ... centralized version and vision

justapassenger 3y ago

They announced that more feed options, including followers only are coming. They rushed to market.

atq2119 3y ago
Considering that "followed only" is far simpler to build, that's a pretty lame excuse and doesn't do anything to change my opinion about whether they're priorities are healthy.
- justapassenger 3y ago
  I’m not a fan of that decision either. But I can understand why they added it first. Otherwise, when you sign up, you have empty feed and it’ll take a long time for you to get enough of content, as others subscribe, you follow them and they start posting. With this decision they ensured you have content from the day one. Often irrelevant (which is risky), but TBH, I’ve found their algorithm to be ok. I’ll drop it as soon as possible, but for v0, I’m ok with it.

guraf 3y ago

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_nhynes 3y ago
A less uncharitable interpretation of the parent comment is that decentralized platforms are the only way to guarantee personal freedom, save a saintly BDFL or government regulation. Not likely to happen. The “even if it’s the centralized version” is an acknowledgement that some users may prefer centralization, or the platform is still too young to usefully decentralize. As long as there is a way out, or a credible plan, freedom is preserved. The third Matrix succeeded due to choice—even at the subconscious level.

femiagbabiaka 3y ago

I thought Bluesky was only decentralized in theory. Have alternative open source servers been released?

s3krit 3y ago
They've launched the 'sandbox' which is the federated/decentralised dev/staging environment. So yes, you can run your own PDS (server) and have it federate with others, but it's still very much in development and 'here be dragons' https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds/blob/main/SANDBOX.md https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds/blob/main/SANDBOX.md
- femiagbabiaka 3y ago
  Super cool!

troupo 3y ago

> while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for Not exactly. They can't even show you full timelines: https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3jzsdcorxx42n https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3jzsdcorxx42n

inpdx 3y ago
Trivial to code up a custom feed to show however long you want.
- troupo 3y ago
  wat? Also: I'm definitely not going to code anything?

bowsamic 3y ago

> 90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow Most people want this though. They don't just want to see people they follow, they want to be served an endless stream of takes and fight videos