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It's not about any of those things, it's about just being a well-run internet service. Facebook is very good at running a big internet service that billions use

It's not about any of those things, it's about just being a well-run internet service. Facebook is very good at running a big internet service that billions use, Twitter not so much under new management. A well-run internet service tries not to keep causing self-inflicted PR disasters. A well-run service is stable, consistently available, doesn't have a large amount of feature churn, and generally has stable leadership making sane decisions about maximising value. None of those things describe Twitter under Musk, but Facebook is a generally well-run company with sound policies and competent leadership. Just because people here disagree with many of Facebook's decisions doesn't make them any less good. I may think that the focus on VR is a strategic mistake, or that Facebook has a PR problem, but generally they're good stewards of the platform they've created and run it fairly well.

proxiful-wash 3y ago
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wraptile 3y ago
can you define "well run"? As in "being a cause of a literal genocide because you couldn't bother to hire a single person to manage the country you're publishing your product in and take any actions to prevent the whole thing" or do we mean "making money" here?
exodust 3y ago
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- prox 3y ago
  But we don’t need Twitter for that do we? We have 4chan, parts of the fediverse and so on for unfiltered. Threads is for mainstream. I don’t see that as bad. As someone who was a moderator, sometimes you want that sandwich and not Joe Schmoe stupid verbal trash he thought less than 3 seconds about.
  - exodust 3y ago
    I responded to the claim that Facebook is "run well" and Twitter is "not run well since Musk". You've extended this simplistic division by implying anything that isn't basic sandwich content must be verbal trash. Political discussion and controversial topics need to be covered in order for society to progress, to solve problems, to canvas the range of solutions and perspectives. Heated exchanges, passionate disagreements, and ideas we don't like come with the territory. No need to be afraid. If we fall into the trap of "nothing to see here" via enforcing certain people as truth-tellers and everyone else as "stupid sex-predator anti-vaxxer shills", then we have a problem. It's much better to trust the average educated person can think for themselves rather than need Corporate sponsored Big Gov to push creepy "anti-misinformation" tactics, censoring, back-dooring and manipulation. That's my point done... what exactly was your point?
  - oska 3y ago
    I want to be able to read (former UN weapons nspector) Scott Ritter on twitter. A man with a huge amount of experience and someone who is able to give very informed commentary. On pre-Musk twitter I couldn't read him, now I can. And I could give quite a number of similar examples.
    - prox 3y ago
      Hey thanks for your comment and other perspective! How couldn’t you read him before the overtake? What’s the difference? Could this inspector join Threads and would you follow him there?
      - logicprog 3y ago
        They probably couldn't read him on pre-musk twitter because he was briefly banned. From the Wikipedia page, this is why: "Ritter rejected the Western media's coverage of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and has voiced his perspective on multiple podcasts, including Andrew Napolitano's.[42][43] In April 2022, he posted a tweet claiming that the National Police of Ukraine is responsible for the Bucha massacre and calling U.S. President Joe Biden a "war criminal" for "seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders" to Russia.[44][45] Ritter was suspended from Twitter for violating its rule on "harassment and abuse" after this, but his account was reinstated the next day.[45][46][47] The U.S. Department of State and Polygraph.info described Ritter as a frequent contributor to Sputnik and RT during the war.[48][49] Polygraph reported that he compared Ukraine to “a rabid dog” that needed to be shot.[49] He has also compared Ukraine's treatment of Russians to Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews.[50] In July 2022, the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation included Ritter on a list of what it called Russian propagandists.[51][44]" He's a Russian shill, imperialism apologist.

proxiful-wash 3y ago

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wraptile 3y ago

can you define "well run"? As in "being a cause of a literal genocide because you couldn't bother to hire a single person to manage the country you're publishing your product in and take any actions to prevent the whole thing" or do we mean "making money" here?

exodust 3y ago

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prox 3y ago
But we don’t need Twitter for that do we? We have 4chan, parts of the fediverse and so on for unfiltered. Threads is for mainstream. I don’t see that as bad. As someone who was a moderator, sometimes you want that sandwich and not Joe Schmoe stupid verbal trash he thought less than 3 seconds about.
- exodust 3y ago
  I responded to the claim that Facebook is "run well" and Twitter is "not run well since Musk". You've extended this simplistic division by implying anything that isn't basic sandwich content must be verbal trash. Political discussion and controversial topics need to be covered in order for society to progress, to solve problems, to canvas the range of solutions and perspectives. Heated exchanges, passionate disagreements, and ideas we don't like come with the territory. No need to be afraid. If we fall into the trap of "nothing to see here" via enforcing certain people as truth-tellers and everyone else as "stupid sex-predator anti-vaxxer shills", then we have a problem. It's much better to trust the average educated person can think for themselves rather than need Corporate sponsored Big Gov to push creepy "anti-misinformation" tactics, censoring, back-dooring and manipulation. That's my point done... what exactly was your point?
- oska 3y ago
  I want to be able to read (former UN weapons nspector) Scott Ritter on twitter. A man with a huge amount of experience and someone who is able to give very informed commentary. On pre-Musk twitter I couldn't read him, now I can. And I could give quite a number of similar examples.
  - prox 3y ago
    Hey thanks for your comment and other perspective! How couldn’t you read him before the overtake? What’s the difference? Could this inspector join Threads and would you follow him there?
    - logicprog 3y ago
      They probably couldn't read him on pre-musk twitter because he was briefly banned. From the Wikipedia page, this is why: "Ritter rejected the Western media's coverage of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and has voiced his perspective on multiple podcasts, including Andrew Napolitano's.[42][43] In April 2022, he posted a tweet claiming that the National Police of Ukraine is responsible for the Bucha massacre and calling U.S. President Joe Biden a "war criminal" for "seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders" to Russia.[44][45] Ritter was suspended from Twitter for violating its rule on "harassment and abuse" after this, but his account was reinstated the next day.[45][46][47] The U.S. Department of State and Polygraph.info described Ritter as a frequent contributor to Sputnik and RT during the war.[48][49] Polygraph reported that he compared Ukraine to “a rabid dog” that needed to be shot.[49] He has also compared Ukraine's treatment of Russians to Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews.[50] In July 2022, the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation included Ritter on a list of what it called Russian propagandists.[51][44]" He's a Russian shill, imperialism apologist.