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AMD was almost bankrupt ~5 years ago. Is has been the years of investing and specially the software ( CUDA ) that keeps Nvidia as the "king". Hardware wise AMD

AMD was almost bankrupt ~5 years ago. Is has been the years of investing and specially the software ( CUDA ) that keeps Nvidia as the "king". Hardware wise AMD it's pretty much up there or winning in a few cases.

myrryr 3y ago
Right? It is CUDA, that is why they are winning. AMD has the patents for putting a SSD directly on the card, they could be killing it in the home AI market, but.... they just can't get it together.
- paulmd 3y ago
  > AMD has the patents for putting a SSD directly on the card, they could be killing it in the home AI market, but.... they just can't get it together. Radeon SSG was just a PCIe switch chip on-card, with the SSD+GPU behind it, so functionally it is the same as having the SSD on the motherboard. I'm not sure if they got patents but either way the problem it solved was not the one people think it solved. It wasn't "using the SSD as memory", and in the way that it did (block storage) any other SSD+GPU can function identically in the same way without needing the SSG tech. Putting the SSD on your mobo performs as high in every way on any GPU (CUDA RDMA Direct have been around for a while, since Fermi/Kepler at least). It was just a convenience thing of getting a SSD mountpoint built into your GPU basically. They even showed up as a HBA in windows and were treated as a striped disk. https://youtu.be/-fEjoJO4lEM?t=62 https://youtu.be/-fEjoJO4lEM?t=62 More recently this idea has re-surfaced with some of the modern GPUs with x8 interfaces (6600XT, 4060 Ti, etc) getting a couple M.2 drives in the other x4x4 via bifurcation, and this functionally performs the same as SSG but without the switch chip (needs hardware support instead). And if there are patents around using a switch chip that may be how the patent is evaded. But combination cards utilizing more than one type of hardware in general is not that novel (network card/ssd combos are another popular one) and I'm not sure AMD patented it or it's defensibly novel against prior art. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-with-m2-slots https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-geforce-rtx-406...
gxs 3y ago
Hard to believe its share price was $1/share not too long ago. Investing in AMD at $9/share is one of my best investments of all time.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Last time AMD was 9 USD per share was Q4 2016. That is a LONG time ago. What made you bet on AMD at that time? I'm still shocked how fast AMD turned around. And I cannot see the end of Intel's slow slide into dinosaur tech company, similar to IBM, HP & Compaq.
  - pokerface_86 3y ago
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- lkramer 3y ago
  I bought AMD at around $1.50 and sold at around $2.50 and congratulated myself at the time for how well I did :)
Hamuko 3y ago
>Hardware wise AMD it's pretty much up there or winning in a few cases. Hard disagree as someone who's had two 7900 XTXs and is now looking to buy an Nvidia card. If I need to pay 1100€ for a product, I'd like it to work and AMD cannot deliver on that. The lack of a recall for broken hardware also makes me distrust them from a customer support point of view.
- guardiangod 3y ago
  >The lack of a recall for broken hardware also makes me distrust them from a customer support point of view. Have you ever heard of the Geforce 8 Series "Bumpgate"?
  - paulmd 3y ago
    Bumpgate was just RoHS solder and nobody recalled for that, including AMD. Seen a lot of pictures of people baking their 7850 as well, it just didn't get a fancy name like bumpgate. Bumpgate was an industry-wide problem and pretty much nobody recalled for it unless they were sued into doing it.

myrryr 3y ago

Right? It is CUDA, that is why they are winning. AMD has the patents for putting a SSD directly on the card, they could be killing it in the home AI market, but.... they just can't get it together.

paulmd 3y ago
> AMD has the patents for putting a SSD directly on the card, they could be killing it in the home AI market, but.... they just can't get it together. Radeon SSG was just a PCIe switch chip on-card, with the SSD+GPU behind it, so functionally it is the same as having the SSD on the motherboard. I'm not sure if they got patents but either way the problem it solved was not the one people think it solved. It wasn't "using the SSD as memory", and in the way that it did (block storage) any other SSD+GPU can function identically in the same way without needing the SSG tech. Putting the SSD on your mobo performs as high in every way on any GPU (CUDA RDMA Direct have been around for a while, since Fermi/Kepler at least). It was just a convenience thing of getting a SSD mountpoint built into your GPU basically. They even showed up as a HBA in windows and were treated as a striped disk. https://youtu.be/-fEjoJO4lEM?t=62 https://youtu.be/-fEjoJO4lEM?t=62 More recently this idea has re-surfaced with some of the modern GPUs with x8 interfaces (6600XT, 4060 Ti, etc) getting a couple M.2 drives in the other x4x4 via bifurcation, and this functionally performs the same as SSG but without the switch chip (needs hardware support instead). And if there are patents around using a switch chip that may be how the patent is evaded. But combination cards utilizing more than one type of hardware in general is not that novel (network card/ssd combos are another popular one) and I'm not sure AMD patented it or it's defensibly novel against prior art. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-with-m2-slots https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-geforce-rtx-406...

gxs 3y ago

Hard to believe its share price was $1/share not too long ago. Investing in AMD at $9/share is one of my best investments of all time.

throwaway2037 3y ago
Last time AMD was 9 USD per share was Q4 2016. That is a LONG time ago. What made you bet on AMD at that time? I'm still shocked how fast AMD turned around. And I cannot see the end of Intel's slow slide into dinosaur tech company, similar to IBM, HP & Compaq.
- pokerface_86 3y ago
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lkramer 3y ago
I bought AMD at around $1.50 and sold at around $2.50 and congratulated myself at the time for how well I did :)

Hamuko 3y ago

>Hardware wise AMD it's pretty much up there or winning in a few cases. Hard disagree as someone who's had two 7900 XTXs and is now looking to buy an Nvidia card. If I need to pay 1100€ for a product, I'd like it to work and AMD cannot deliver on that. The lack of a recall for broken hardware also makes me distrust them from a customer support point of view.

guardiangod 3y ago
>The lack of a recall for broken hardware also makes me distrust them from a customer support point of view. Have you ever heard of the Geforce 8 Series "Bumpgate"?
- paulmd 3y ago
  Bumpgate was just RoHS solder and nobody recalled for that, including AMD. Seen a lot of pictures of people baking their 7850 as well, it just didn't get a fancy name like bumpgate. Bumpgate was an industry-wide problem and pretty much nobody recalled for it unless they were sued into doing it.