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> into more livable, higher density Speaking for myself, but you’re describing hell. I’ve lived in high density urban environments, and moved back to Montana j
by falcolas 3y ago
> into more livable, higher density
Speaking for myself, but you’re describing hell. I’ve lived in high density urban environments, and moved back to Montana just to get away from that misery.
- happytiger 3y agoHigher density isn’t intrinsically high density urbanism. That’s a limiting idea. There’s a broad spectrum of density between Montana ruralism and downtown Manhattan, with different thresholds of possibilities at each degree of concentration along the way. Besides Montana is growing at 1 percent a year on average and that will certainly increase as winters become more mild. I believe it was Idaho, Montana and Florida that saw the highest population growth among U.S. states between 2020 and 2022 as well. If it grows 10 percent a decade it won’t be the rural paradise it is for long.
- falcolas 3y agoTo achieve the generally-considered-ideal "15 minute" urban design without cars or public transit (which is what the parent post is advocating), you absolutely require density higher than "single family separated townhome with a yard". You require shared walls and building up. WRT growth, Montana is roughly the size of Germany, but with 400k residents. It will take some 90+ years at the growth rate of 10% per decade to even break 1m residents, let alone Germany's 84m. That's well beyond my lifespan, though I'll do nothing to discourage the growth - that would be cruel. Even if I don't like living in an urban environment, I won't take that choice away from others.
- happytiger 3y agoLess than half that population lives in rural Montana. Most are in cities.