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I'll take some downvotes for this opinion: I hate public transportation. I hate dealing with crowds of people. I hate waiting for whatever conveyence I'm goin

I'll take some downvotes for this opinion: I hate public transportation. I hate dealing with crowds of people. I hate waiting for whatever conveyence I'm going to ride on. I hate feeling like I need a full bath after riding on said conveyence. I hate dealing with the inevitable schizos, drug addicts, mental illness, and other malcontents that will undoubtedly pan handle or beg. And no, it isn't my problem to care or deal with them. Once I got enough money to ride in my own car to and from work, I stopped public transit and never looked back. If I somehow become stupid rich(doubt), I would charter private jets for the same reason. I see you're from Italy and will concede that European public transit is better when it comes to frequency so there's less waiting but that's about it. Still have the drug addict schizos and cleanliness problems. I still owned a car when I lived in Europe and if I do it again I'll be owning another, especially now with kids.

ryandrake 3y ago
Have an upvote. For public transport to really replace personal vehicles, it has to beat personal vehicles in at least a few, if not all, of the killer features: 1. It has to take me directly from the front of my (rural) house to directly in front of my destination. My vehicle does this. 2. It has to do this as fast as or faster than my vehicle. 3. It has to be available in the time that it takes to find my vehicle's keys. 4. It has to be as comfortable as my vehicle. 5. It has to smell as nice and be as clean as my vehicle. 6. It has to not put me in more contact with crazy people than my vehicle does. 7. It has to be as cheap or cheaper per mile than my vehicle. 8. It has to be able to haul my belongings when I need to move them, with at least the capacity of my vehicle. A few alternative to cars can check a few of those boxes, but nobody gets them all: Walking and Bicycles: 1, 3, 7 Busses: 7 (maybe) Trains: 2, 7 (if long distance) Taxis: 2 Rideshare: 1, 2, 4 (maybe), 5 (maybe), 6 (maybe) Car/Truck rental: 2, 6, 8
- wizofaus 3y ago
  Just for reference, as someone who doesn't live rurally, the only point that a bicycle can't reasonably fulfill above is 8., and indeed, when I do need to move heavy belongings around (pretty rare), or take other people (not too often thankfully) I'll use a car. Most of the journeys I take on my bike would take twice as long in a car, including time to find parking, walking to/from where car is parked etc., so a bike easily wins on 2. But sure, on 4. it loses out in rainy/cold weather. Otherwise the physical pleasure of riding a bike far exceeds that of driving a car. I'm curious why you come across so many crazy people riding bikes, or why your bike would smell so bad... EDIT: on my commute to the office I managed to think of at least 4 other reasons people prefer driving over riding: prestige, safety, theft risk and restrictions around suitable clothing (particularly when there's a lack of end-of-trip facilities).
- freitzkriesler2 3y ago
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ryandrake 3y ago

Have an upvote. For public transport to really replace personal vehicles, it has to beat personal vehicles in at least a few, if not all, of the killer features: 1. It has to take me directly from the front of my (rural) house to directly in front of my destination. My vehicle does this. 2. It has to do this as fast as or faster than my vehicle. 3. It has to be available in the time that it takes to find my vehicle's keys. 4. It has to be as comfortable as my vehicle. 5. It has to smell as nice and be as clean as my vehicle. 6. It has to not put me in more contact with crazy people than my vehicle does. 7. It has to be as cheap or cheaper per mile than my vehicle. 8. It has to be able to haul my belongings when I need to move them, with at least the capacity of my vehicle. A few alternative to cars can check a few of those boxes, but nobody gets them all: Walking and Bicycles: 1, 3, 7 Busses: 7 (maybe) Trains: 2, 7 (if long distance) Taxis: 2 Rideshare: 1, 2, 4 (maybe), 5 (maybe), 6 (maybe) Car/Truck rental: 2, 6, 8

wizofaus 3y ago
Just for reference, as someone who doesn't live rurally, the only point that a bicycle can't reasonably fulfill above is 8., and indeed, when I do need to move heavy belongings around (pretty rare), or take other people (not too often thankfully) I'll use a car. Most of the journeys I take on my bike would take twice as long in a car, including time to find parking, walking to/from where car is parked etc., so a bike easily wins on 2. But sure, on 4. it loses out in rainy/cold weather. Otherwise the physical pleasure of riding a bike far exceeds that of driving a car. I'm curious why you come across so many crazy people riding bikes, or why your bike would smell so bad... EDIT: on my commute to the office I managed to think of at least 4 other reasons people prefer driving over riding: prestige, safety, theft risk and restrictions around suitable clothing (particularly when there's a lack of end-of-trip facilities).
freitzkriesler2 3y ago
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