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Show HN: Banger.show – Create colorful visuals for your songs in seconds
I made an app for music producers to tease their music in a fancy way. Something that looks better than this: https://twitter.com/eprombeats/status/1647072160547246081 https://twitter.com/eprombeats/status/1647072160547246081
- hideo 3y agoi have the inexplicable urge to whip a llama's ass
- justzisguyuknow 3y agoSeriously though is this app a joke? WinAmp was doing way more "stunning" visualizations than this back in 1998...
- autoexec 3y agoFor free too! Whatever happened to making cool stuff and sharing it because it was cool?
- LadyCailin 3y agoThis is neat, but no way in hell would I pay $8 a month for it. I’d maybe be fine using credits, but not a subscription.
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, thanks for feedback! Yeah, I've been considering this type of pricing. For example, you buy X amount of seconds and use them whenever you want. I'm curious, are you a musician?
- LadyCailin 3y agoI am, yes, and such a service is in principal interesting, but I don’t produce enough music per month to want have a monthly subscription - at any price point.
- samokhovets 3y agoGood point. I made it like this today — you buy rendering seconds once and use them any time. Also, minimum bundle cost is 4$. Thanks for helpful feedback!
- samokhovets 3y agoAlso, you can try it for free now.
- immy 3y agoCurious to hear what you learned so far in doing market research with artists
- samokhovets 3y agoHey! I'm still learning and testing, but here's some of my thoughts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36622992#36623549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36622992#36623549
- ugh123 3y agoIf I decline the collection of cookies via your popup, then I can't view the site? I believe that's in violation of something, and also really lame. Edit: Here's the actual text from the GDPR rules (EU) "The emphasis on “specific website content” clarifies that websites should not make conditional “general access” to the site on acceptance of all cookies but can only limit certain content if the user does not consent to cookies (e.g.: for e-commerce websites, whose main purpose is to sell products, not accepting (non-functional) cookies should not prevent a user from buying products on this website)." https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2013/wp208_en.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinio...
- samokhovets 3y agoI think you just saved me, sir. Thanks for pointing it out, I just forgot about that "quick fix" I left at the development stage. Fixing!
- ugh123 3y agoCool thanks and awesome project =)
- BLKNSLVR 3y agoProjectM is the spiritual successor to Winamp's visualiser: https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm
- samokhovets 3y agoLooks cool! But the point was to provide a fast way to make vids. It's not about git cloning, building from source etc. It's about compromise between good UX and how output looks.
- TehCorwiz 3y agoIt's on Steam. Works on Linux too. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1358800/projectM_Music_Visualizer/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1358800/projectM_Music_Vi...
- Meph504 3y agodid you look at the repo, there are several binaries that don't require anything more than download and install.
- pbronez 3y agoThanks for sharing this! I loved music visualizers back in the day and have been missing them. I wonder if there’s a way to package this into a TVOS app…
- m3kw9 3y agoLooks like a practice site for Saas, seriously, what was the market research like to see if someone would pay for this service?
- zerkten 3y agoI suspect that's their point, or maybe that of their client. Following the footer you find that it's built by a company that focuses on MVPs: "A small team of high-skilled product developers has created and launched mini-startups for the last 5 years. We will build and help to validate your product idea in 30 days."
- samokhovets 3y agoIn this case, that's our product. Managed by musician (me) :) Sorry for being offtopic, but you can find my artist page if you search for "Tequila Funk". I make electronic music.
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, there's was no specific "market research" or anything like that. I run a music project called Tequila Funk (you can check Spotify). I noticed a lot of musicians just record their phone screen with Dropbox app player (because they're exporting snippets to Ableton Live) or recording their DAW (which requires setup). Some examples: https://twitter.com/littlesnakexoxo/status/1647078568785227778 https://twitter.com/littlesnakexoxo/status/16470785687852277... https://twitter.com/eprombeats/status/1647072160547246081 https://twitter.com/eprombeats/status/1647072160547246081 https://twitter.com/nyptane/status/1669404466083143680 https://twitter.com/nyptane/status/1669404466083143680 https://twitter.com/jayjaytet/status/1639613178412670980 https://twitter.com/jayjaytet/status/1639613178412670980 https://twitter.com/staynsdubs/status/1664496810268688384 https://twitter.com/staynsdubs/status/1664496810268688384 All I wanted is to provide a way to pick a file from Dropbox and get a video to post in your socials in around ~60 seconds. And do this from your phone! I see people telling that there's a lot of open source visualizers, Winamp and all that jazz. Yeah, sure. But for me personally it's tough to setup all these. All I wanted is to make videos fast, even without using a computer. Most musicians can't clone github repo or setup audio routing lol
- social_quotient 3y agoFor those asking who would pay for this. I’d pay for an api that did this. We have a platform that gets a lot of audio files and it would be cool to run them through something like this to generate the video viz for it. I think the term is audiogram but minus the transcript. While writing this reply I found this https://getaudiogram.com/ https://getaudiogram.com/ So maybe it’s something to check out. (I’m not affiliated)
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, we've coded internal api that takes three params: 1. Audio file URL 2. Duration in frames 3. Frame rate (FPS) And outputs a .mp4 video file to S3 bucket. So it's quite easy to make a REST API version. Let's keep in touch if solution mentioned above does not satisfy you. My email: igor@tequilafunk.com
- npollock 3y ago(disclosure: affiliated) we have an API for converting audio into video - https://getaudiogram.com/api/ https://getaudiogram.com/api/ it's not self-serve at the moment, we manually onboard new clients
- bob-09 3y agoNone of the visuals are loading for me. SSL errors for both yandex and your CDN on my network.
- samokhovets 3y agoStrange.. if it's Yandex and you're from USA/Canada it's expectable I guess, but CDN is just AWS Cloudfront US East 1. I'll try to investigate this.
- valevk 3y agoLooks nice, but are there any other visuals than the three you demoed? Also, is your user name in any way related to the bulgarian mobster that got killed in Amsterdam?
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, thank you for feedback! At the moment, there's only three: 1. CDJ 3000 2. Specre 3. Circle But I was working on another two and decided not to include in the first version: 4. Trip (https://cdn.banger.show/visuals/160-Tequila-Funk-Drop-The-Bombs-bounce-2:07:23-64a29f7d7322f54a4b1693a8.mp4 https://cdn.banger.show/visuals/160-Tequila-Funk-Drop-The-Bo...) 5. Perimeter (https://cdn.banger.show/visuals/1579016767_flux-pavilion-i-cant-stop-64a2aa26eabb9744f87029f5.mp4 https://cdn.banger.show/visuals/1579016767_flux-pavilion-i-c...) Be careful if your internet traffic is limited, videos are not compressed/optimized and 150-300mb both.
- whatatita 3y agoOut of all five you've shared here (the three built in and these two), Trip is my favorite. The visualization seems fuller, maybe because it uses the whole width/height. It grabs my attention more than the others. Cool project.
- samokhovets 3y agoThanks!
- samokhovets 3y agoAnd about the username – nope, it's not related. It's my last name :)
- chaosprint 3y agoCannot try unless I accept the cookies.
- noizejoy 3y agoAs a music maker, I’m very hesitant to upload my songs to a new cloud service until after they’re published. This doesn’t invalidate this new service, but it might limit its competitiveness compared to self hosted apps.
- Eduard 3y agoAs a movie maker, I'm very hesitant to upload trailers to YouTube until I realize no one pays for and watches my movies without marketing or promotion.
- joenot443 3y ago$8/mo? For a widget? Compared to what folks are doing on ShaderToy, the visualizations you've got here are pretty elementary. I like the spirit, but I think you need to reconsider what you're charging for what you're actually offering.
- mplewis 3y agoAre you planning to add more visualizations? The stuff on here is pretty rudimentary compared to what I'm already seeing producers put on my Twitter and YouTube timelines.
- samokhovets 3y agoYeah sure, the hardest thing is to render cool 3D graphics at scale so it’s simple 2D visuals now
- infinitezest 3y agoDid you consider using an existing visualizer like ProjectM to generate the visuals and then record the output to a file? I have no idea if their license would allow you to monetize that though.
- samokhovets 3y agoNot yet, seems like it's a lot harder than I do it right now. It might require coding a thing that screen captures the visualizer itself, which is really unstable. All the visuals are done by HTML/CSS and Web Audio API now.
- andrewstuart 3y agoPretty negative response from the commenters.
- danfarrelly 3y agoI've seen the demo of this and it's pretty slick! It looks super easy to use and it uses Inngest under the hood which is awesome (I'm one of the co-founders of Inngest [https://www.inngest.com https://www.inngest.com] so it's always very cool to see fun and creative projects like this launch with our product - also Sam is great!
- goodoldneon 3y agoYea! We got a sneak peak of this in the Inngest community server :)
- samokhovets 3y agoHey Dan! Thanks for the feedback and your product, it's never been easier to build background-processing things with Inngest.
- pdntspa 3y agoNo worries fam ZGameEditor got you covered and you get FLStudio with it for one flat fee
- appleflaxen 3y agoI miss Winamp
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- boredemployee 3y agoMan, I love the idea. But: 1) It's expensive for most music producers that can't make a single dollar out of their music 2) If you want to reach rich producers the visuals need to improve by A LOT. It looks really amateur, being honest here.
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, thanks for the feedback! I'm reconsidering things right now, free trial and more cheap, usage-based billing are coming.
- eek2121 3y agoI actually kinda wished HN had a separate category for free vs. paid HN stuff. Don't get me wrong, I've no issue paying for a product, but to click on something that is seemingly interesting only to find out it is overpriced for what it offers? huge turn off. Many of these projects (not necessarily this one...haven't looked yet) simply wrap open source into a 'cloud' offering and charge $X for Y. I do hope we can get some type of filter for these things, or if not, HN should start charging a ton of money for these types of posts.
- uean 3y agoI don’t really get it. How is this better (or needed) when compared with MilkDrop?
- samokhovets 3y agoHey, the main purpose of the tool is not to enjoy visualizations yourself, but to share with your audience if you're musician. Specifically for teasing your songs that are work-in-progress (snippets). 1. You don't need a computer to make a visualizer video 2. You (obviously) don't need Winamp and video/audio capturing software to make a video.
- Meph504 3y agoI blows my mind how people who make any random thing see it as something worthy of a subscription. Really $8/month there have been free products doing this since the early 90s.
- autoexec 3y agoI also had winamp
- unconed 3y agoSad that a feature that used to be part of the music player is now a thing people bake into videos so it can be posted to social media. And these visualizations are ass. Yes, I'm allowed to say that.
- samokhovets 3y agoYep, maybe those visualizations from Winamp looked better, but again – it's all about balance between the good user experience for non-techie musicians and the output. I wish there's was cool built-in visualizer for iOS player, but here's how it usually looks these days: https://twitter.com/killthenoise/status/1661428160125366273 https://twitter.com/killthenoise/status/1661428160125366273
- deliriumchn 3y ago8 bucks a month for exactly 3 visualisers, something that was free from 90s, not to mention that free[1] and more functional alternatives exist? I think its worth to think about your pricing strategy and adjust prices based on value provided at this moment, not in future years. 1 - https://vizzy.io/ https://vizzy.io/
- MattRix 3y agoThis is a neat idea, but I feel like you’re missing the key thing that DAW recordings (and even soundcloud playback) have, which is the ability to see the song structure and anticipate what is coming (the drop etc). If you can come up with a visualizer that shows the entire song/clip at once, I think that’ll be much stronger.
- samokhovets 3y agoThank you! That's a unique idea tho, I'll consider it. Despite the fact that DAW recording is technically more difficult to do, sometimes it looks really cool - when you open a bunch of VST visualizers (like iZotope Insight, Minimeters and others), and also people use custom themes for their DAW (for example in the case of Abeton. I often see this), which distinguishes the artist and the video and captures attention. Here's a camera setup that I really like: https://twitter.com/RichardDevine/status/1676377851468103681?s=20 https://twitter.com/RichardDevine/status/1676377851468103681...
- ryaneager 3y ago10/10 URL