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I know everyone's on text-embedding-ada-002, so these particular embedding deprecations don't really matter, but I feel like if I were using embeddings at scale
by Imnimo 3y ago
I know everyone's on text-embedding-ada-002, so these particular embedding deprecations don't really matter, but I feel like if I were using embeddings at scale, the possibility that I would one day lose access to my embedding model would terrify me. You'd have to pay to re-embed your entire knowledge base.
- saliagato 3y agoThat's what I always thought. Someday they will come up with a new embedding model, right?
- brigadier132 3y agoIf you read the article they state they will cover the cost of re-embedding your existing embeddings.
- jxy 3y agoThey said in the post, > We recognize this is a significant change for developers using those older models. Winding down these models is not a decision we are making lightly. We will cover the financial cost of users re-embedding content with these new models. We will be in touch with impacted users over the coming days.
- bbotond 3y agoWhat I don’t understand is why is an API needed to create embeddings. Isn’t this something that could be done locally?
- thorum 3y agoIt’s cheaper to use OpenAI. If you have your own compute, sentence-transformers is just as good for most use cases.
- merpnderp 3y agoSure, but I don't know of any models you can get local access to that work nearly as well.
- pantulis 3y agoYou would need to have a local copy of the GPT model, which are not exactly OpenAI's plans.
- jerrygenser 3y agoFor embeddings, you can use smaller transformers/llms or sentence2vec and often get good enough results. You don't need very large models to generate usable embeddings.
- pantulis 3y agoYou are correct, I assumed parent was referring to specific embeddings generated by OpenAI LLMs.
- teaearlgraycold 3y agoYes. The best public embedding model is decent, but I expect it’s objectively worse than the best model from OpenAI.