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This is what I am getting: it is simply a "matter of perspective"; despite the Bible getting the age of the planet comically wrong (~10,000 years vs ~4,500,000,

by lgvln 3y ago

This is what I am getting: it is simply a "matter of perspective"; despite the Bible getting the age of the planet comically wrong (~10,000 years vs ~4,500,000,000 years) , that the life did not progress as claimed (on day 5, God created the birds and sea animals; on day 6, the land animals and humans; which would mean the dinosaurs and humans roamed the planet concurrently, among other absurdities), in a way which is at complete odds with the fields of biology, anthropology, geography, physics etc - the conclusion one should hold is: Genesis is "not wrong".

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Correct, yes, because you are wrong in trying to calculate those so-called facts based on your naïve reading of Genesis. As I said, not a science text, not a history report. If you can't interpret Sacred Scripture properly, then of course you will come to absurd conclusions.
- lgvln 3y ago
  Consider me ignorant, how would you "interpret" the narrative in a way that is compatible with modern science?
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    That's not a goal of interpretation. You don't start by saying "let me make this compatible with 'modern science', whatever that is." Its chief literary genre is allegory, if that helps.
  - lgvln 3y ago
    > That's not a goal of interpretation. You don't start by saying "let me make this compatible with 'modern science', whatever that is." Its chief literary genre is allegory, if that helps. Perfect. To summarise: the genesis creation narrative can never be wrong. It is an allegorical narrative with no factual value. Despite having no factual value, one can be mistaken about it. The burden of proof lies not with the claimant but the dissenter, if they can overcome their "false perspective", ignorance or naivety that is.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      > allegorical narrative with no factual value I wrote that your so-called facts have no value in regards to Genesis. Genesis is quite factual--that's why it can never be wrong.

by lgvln 3y ago

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

Correct, yes, because you are wrong in trying to calculate those so-called facts based on your naïve reading of Genesis. As I said, not a science text, not a history report. If you can't interpret Sacred Scripture properly, then of course you will come to absurd conclusions.

lgvln 3y ago
Consider me ignorant, how would you "interpret" the narrative in a way that is compatible with modern science?
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  That's not a goal of interpretation. You don't start by saying "let me make this compatible with 'modern science', whatever that is." Its chief literary genre is allegory, if that helps.
- lgvln 3y ago
  > That's not a goal of interpretation. You don't start by saying "let me make this compatible with 'modern science', whatever that is." Its chief literary genre is allegory, if that helps. Perfect. To summarise: the genesis creation narrative can never be wrong. It is an allegorical narrative with no factual value. Despite having no factual value, one can be mistaken about it. The burden of proof lies not with the claimant but the dissenter, if they can overcome their "false perspective", ignorance or naivety that is.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    > allegorical narrative with no factual value I wrote that your so-called facts have no value in regards to Genesis. Genesis is quite factual--that's why it can never be wrong.