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This is the fire hydrant in question: https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A Currently there's construction there so proba

This is the fire hydrant in question: https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A Currently there's construction there so probably the fines are reduced.

stefan_ 3y ago
No wonder people have to park in front of the hydrant there, there is absolutely no parking on that street
readams 3y ago
Doesn't appear to be any particularly obvious reason this would be a big problem. Edit: Actually looks like they repainted the lines there in between Aug 2013 and Oct 2014 which makes it much more clear. Here's 2013: https://goo.gl/maps/NF3xguY2P6FX4JUX7 https://goo.gl/maps/NF3xguY2P6FX4JUX7 And 2014: https://goo.gl/maps/Bk6W8bqndCb1Zjvd7 https://goo.gl/maps/Bk6W8bqndCb1Zjvd7
- jerrygenser 3y ago
  I love how there's a car there in the 2013 shot that likely received a fine.
- londons_explore 3y ago
  The goal of the law is to let someone connect a hose to the fire hydrant right? Well even with a car parked in that spot, there is still multiple yards of spare space to connect a hose... The whole thing smells of someone sticking to the letter not the spirit of the law.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    It depends on how accessible to fire trucks that lane is between the cars and the hydrant. If it's a pain for trucks to get in there, they probably usually opt to park in the middle of the street and run the hoses past the cars to the hydrant.
  - js2 3y ago
    15 feet. Multiple reasons given here: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-firefighters-need-15-feet-of-space-on-either-side-of-a-hydrant https://www.quora.com/Why-do-firefighters-need-15-feet-of-sp... https://archive.ph/ELmoa https://archive.ph/ELmoa
xyst 3y ago
Not sure why people are throwing a fit. Space is marked out with lines. Fire hydrant in clear view. I mean it’s painted a non standard color, but it’s clearly a fire hydrant. $33K per year in 2013 is just a tax on idiots.
- zeven7 3y ago
  Look at the sibling comment. In 2013 it wasn't painted clearly. I imagine now that it's painted clearly, this hydrant is no longer raking in the same amount of fines.
- SkipperCat 3y ago
  For a lot of vehicle owners, parking tickets in NYC are not an unfortunate event but just a cost of doing business. In my Brooklyn neighborhood, its cheaper to get one or two parking tickets a month than to rent a garage space. Its kind of a wager, will I pay more in fines or parking garage fees. For a lot of delivery businesses, its really part of their business model. They know they're getting X amount of fines per month; they bake that into their costs.
  - ignormies 3y ago
    Sounds like the price of a ticket should be made dependent on how many other tickets were received. Repeat offenders should have to pay more per incident.
    - SkipperCat 3y ago
      I would 100% support that.
zgluck 3y ago
Why is it placed so close to the road and also directly facing it? As a first step, maybe they could try turning it 90 or 180 degrees and see if that helps increasing accessiblity.
- dylan604 3y ago
  doesn't the fire department connect the hydrant to a pump truck and feed hoses that way rather than connecting hoses directly to the hydrant to fight the fires? kind of hard to park a truck where you're proposing to rotate the hydrant
  - zgluck 3y ago
    I guess they could double park and use feed hoses that can tolerate a relatively tight bend? Were I'm coming from: When a problem keeps happening over and over and over again because it's next to impossible to train 100% of the population to follow every rule to the letter, you work around the problem using design and technology. You don't use fines to create a revenue source.

This is the fire hydrant in question: https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A https://goo.gl/maps/5C983vRcHCW6Zaq5A Currently there's construction there so probably the fines are reduced.

stefan_ 3y ago

No wonder people have to park in front of the hydrant there, there is absolutely no parking on that street

readams 3y ago

Doesn't appear to be any particularly obvious reason this would be a big problem. Edit: Actually looks like they repainted the lines there in between Aug 2013 and Oct 2014 which makes it much more clear. Here's 2013: https://goo.gl/maps/NF3xguY2P6FX4JUX7 https://goo.gl/maps/NF3xguY2P6FX4JUX7 And 2014: https://goo.gl/maps/Bk6W8bqndCb1Zjvd7 https://goo.gl/maps/Bk6W8bqndCb1Zjvd7

jerrygenser 3y ago
I love how there's a car there in the 2013 shot that likely received a fine.
londons_explore 3y ago
The goal of the law is to let someone connect a hose to the fire hydrant right? Well even with a car parked in that spot, there is still multiple yards of spare space to connect a hose... The whole thing smells of someone sticking to the letter not the spirit of the law.
- kelnos 3y ago
  It depends on how accessible to fire trucks that lane is between the cars and the hydrant. If it's a pain for trucks to get in there, they probably usually opt to park in the middle of the street and run the hoses past the cars to the hydrant.
- js2 3y ago
  15 feet. Multiple reasons given here: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-firefighters-need-15-feet-of-space-on-either-side-of-a-hydrant https://www.quora.com/Why-do-firefighters-need-15-feet-of-sp... https://archive.ph/ELmoa https://archive.ph/ELmoa

xyst 3y ago

Not sure why people are throwing a fit. Space is marked out with lines. Fire hydrant in clear view. I mean it’s painted a non standard color, but it’s clearly a fire hydrant. $33K per year in 2013 is just a tax on idiots.

zeven7 3y ago
Look at the sibling comment. In 2013 it wasn't painted clearly. I imagine now that it's painted clearly, this hydrant is no longer raking in the same amount of fines.
SkipperCat 3y ago
For a lot of vehicle owners, parking tickets in NYC are not an unfortunate event but just a cost of doing business. In my Brooklyn neighborhood, its cheaper to get one or two parking tickets a month than to rent a garage space. Its kind of a wager, will I pay more in fines or parking garage fees. For a lot of delivery businesses, its really part of their business model. They know they're getting X amount of fines per month; they bake that into their costs.
- ignormies 3y ago
  Sounds like the price of a ticket should be made dependent on how many other tickets were received. Repeat offenders should have to pay more per incident.
  - SkipperCat 3y ago
    I would 100% support that.

zgluck 3y ago

Why is it placed so close to the road and also directly facing it? As a first step, maybe they could try turning it 90 or 180 degrees and see if that helps increasing accessiblity.

dylan604 3y ago
doesn't the fire department connect the hydrant to a pump truck and feed hoses that way rather than connecting hoses directly to the hydrant to fight the fires? kind of hard to park a truck where you're proposing to rotate the hydrant
- zgluck 3y ago
  I guess they could double park and use feed hoses that can tolerate a relatively tight bend? Were I'm coming from: When a problem keeps happening over and over and over again because it's next to impossible to train 100% of the population to follow every rule to the letter, you work around the problem using design and technology. You don't use fines to create a revenue source.