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This reminds me of A Cyborg Manifesto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto Instead of identifyin

by sshine 3y ago

This reminds me of A Cyborg Manifesto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto Instead of identifying yourself in bounded categories, characterise yourself by affinity. Haraway calls for a revision of the concept of gender, moving away from Western patriarchal essentialism and toward "the utopian dream of the hope for a monstrous world without gender," stating that "Cyborgs might consider more seriously the partial, fluid, sometimes aspect of sex and sexual embodiment. Gender might not be global identity after all, even if it has profound historical breadth and depth."

EatingWithForks 3y ago
Would love gender-by-affinity rather than gender-by-bimodal-physical-characteristics. It'd be neat to try on having boobs, especially if it's e.g. temporary to feed my child or something, and still do and be seen with all the guy characteristics I currently identify as.
- ben_w 3y ago
  Surely someone's already selling those on Amazon? In the form of wearable milk bottles, but still, surely? Edit: Found it: https://www.amazon.com/Milker-Now-Men-Can-Breastfeed/dp/B00BJLSD3U https://www.amazon.com/Milker-Now-Men-Can-Breastfeed/dp/B00B...
- ye-olde-sysrq 3y ago
  I wonder how improving technology will affect perceptions of of these concepts. Right now, transitioning genders physically is hard, for many reasons, and quality of outcomes is dependent on many factors. What if you could just pop into a genetic resculpting pod and it could literally physically edit you to be biologically the other gender? What if it was fast and easy enough that someone could do it habitually during a day or week? Be one gender at work and one gender while at home? I suspect that enough generations will pass that the gradual decoupling of physical biology from our sense of identity will make this a less interesting smooth change with no big-bang, but I'd be kind of interested in reading a short story exploring what our world would look like if this star-trek-tier sophisticated body-modding was invented tomorrow.
  - EatingWithForks 3y ago
    Yeah see, that'd be neat. I've heard a lot of unpleasant bra stuff and it'd be cool if women could just not have them if it was such a hassle. (I've heard from women doctors generally refuse breast reduction unless its considered medically necessary or has written permission from a male long-term partner.)
- joker_minmax 3y ago
  Lactation is the product of a dynamic system of organs in the body. It's more than just "trying on boobs". It actively responds to the baby's needs through chemical signalling.

by sshine 3y ago

EatingWithForks 3y ago

Would love gender-by-affinity rather than gender-by-bimodal-physical-characteristics. It'd be neat to try on having boobs, especially if it's e.g. temporary to feed my child or something, and still do and be seen with all the guy characteristics I currently identify as.

ben_w 3y ago
Surely someone's already selling those on Amazon? In the form of wearable milk bottles, but still, surely? Edit: Found it: https://www.amazon.com/Milker-Now-Men-Can-Breastfeed/dp/B00BJLSD3U https://www.amazon.com/Milker-Now-Men-Can-Breastfeed/dp/B00B...
ye-olde-sysrq 3y ago
I wonder how improving technology will affect perceptions of of these concepts. Right now, transitioning genders physically is hard, for many reasons, and quality of outcomes is dependent on many factors. What if you could just pop into a genetic resculpting pod and it could literally physically edit you to be biologically the other gender? What if it was fast and easy enough that someone could do it habitually during a day or week? Be one gender at work and one gender while at home? I suspect that enough generations will pass that the gradual decoupling of physical biology from our sense of identity will make this a less interesting smooth change with no big-bang, but I'd be kind of interested in reading a short story exploring what our world would look like if this star-trek-tier sophisticated body-modding was invented tomorrow.
- EatingWithForks 3y ago
  Yeah see, that'd be neat. I've heard a lot of unpleasant bra stuff and it'd be cool if women could just not have them if it was such a hassle. (I've heard from women doctors generally refuse breast reduction unless its considered medically necessary or has written permission from a male long-term partner.)
joker_minmax 3y ago
Lactation is the product of a dynamic system of organs in the body. It's more than just "trying on boobs". It actively responds to the baby's needs through chemical signalling.