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This gives me some vague hope that if humans do succeed in boiling the atmosphere and destroying ourselves, intelligent life might still find a way to survive a

This gives me some vague hope that if humans do succeed in boiling the atmosphere and destroying ourselves, intelligent life might still find a way to survive at the bottom of the oceans.

csomar 3y ago
Life during the Dinosaurs era was harsh by today's measures (high temperatures, high CO2, etc..) humans would not be able to survive under these conditions. +10 degrees will kill us but will not kill life and will probably create different kinds of species.
- rtkwe 3y ago
  My read on the climate threat is more civilizational than extinctional, small numbers of people can survive even the "global nuclear war over resources" endgame of climate change. It's still a pretty horrible endpoint because so many of the easily accessible resources you'd need to kickstart another high tech civilization are already exploited and inaccessible in deeper mines but I have doubts even the worst outcomes would be human extinction.
  - lukas099 3y ago
    Wouldn't there be tons of resources in the civilizational remains? Landfill mining would be incredible at least for a while.
    - rtkwe 3y ago
      For some things but rust will really destroy a lot of the valuable metals like iron as it decays then scatters, a lot of how useful that will stay will depend on how long and deep the collapse is. One of the main things will be energy as so much of the surface coal and easily accessible oil have been exploited. The best bet is probably recovering and refurbishing electric motors to rig generators but there's a lot of infrastructure around turning that into reliable power that would also be tough to recover.
  - HelloMcFly 3y ago
    As we ravage the natural world, one of the thoughts that has been able to keep me from being truly depressed is the certainty that we won't extinct all life. As beautiful as our biodiverse world is, I believe it will be differently and beautifully biodiverse in a couple hundred thousand years if we mess it all up.

This gives me some vague hope that if humans do succeed in boiling the atmosphere and destroying ourselves, intelligent life might still find a way to survive at the bottom of the oceans.

csomar 3y ago

Life during the Dinosaurs era was harsh by today's measures (high temperatures, high CO2, etc..) humans would not be able to survive under these conditions. +10 degrees will kill us but will not kill life and will probably create different kinds of species.

rtkwe 3y ago
My read on the climate threat is more civilizational than extinctional, small numbers of people can survive even the "global nuclear war over resources" endgame of climate change. It's still a pretty horrible endpoint because so many of the easily accessible resources you'd need to kickstart another high tech civilization are already exploited and inaccessible in deeper mines but I have doubts even the worst outcomes would be human extinction.
- lukas099 3y ago
  Wouldn't there be tons of resources in the civilizational remains? Landfill mining would be incredible at least for a while.
  - rtkwe 3y ago
    For some things but rust will really destroy a lot of the valuable metals like iron as it decays then scatters, a lot of how useful that will stay will depend on how long and deep the collapse is. One of the main things will be energy as so much of the surface coal and easily accessible oil have been exploited. The best bet is probably recovering and refurbishing electric motors to rig generators but there's a lot of infrastructure around turning that into reliable power that would also be tough to recover.
- HelloMcFly 3y ago
  As we ravage the natural world, one of the thoughts that has been able to keep me from being truly depressed is the certainty that we won't extinct all life. As beautiful as our biodiverse world is, I believe it will be differently and beautifully biodiverse in a couple hundred thousand years if we mess it all up.