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> - got the OK to feed entire repos and proprietary information into ChatGPT without a care because “we got the pro version” > Our main product is CRUD app tha

> - got the OK to feed entire repos and proprietary information into ChatGPT without a care because “we got the pro version” > Our main product is CRUD app that is designed like something straight out of 2010, complete with outdated frameworks If it's a small startup with a simple CRUD app, why this a problem? 99% startups die from lack of execution, not because someone stole their proprietary secrets or source code.

intelVISA 3y ago
Simple CRUD apps don't really need a startup to be fair, they could be done as a side project these days.
- justrealist 3y ago
  Maybe, depends how much biz/dev and domain expertise is needed. Either way, I don't understand the complaints. OpenAI isn't going to steal your crappy webapp.
- spaceman_2020 3y ago
  A 30 year old “startup” I consulted with once was a very badly designed SaaS app that had somehow been in business for three decades. At first, I couldn’t figure out how this awful app could be in business when there were competitors on the market with better UX/UI and marketing. But then I learned that the bad UI had very specific features that professionals in their target industry desperately needed, and that the bad UX was so deeply embedded in their workflows that changing any of it would collapse entire multimillion dollar businesses.
  - lelanthran 3y ago
    I'm exploring creating a CRUD/SaaS/or similar type of business.[1] I've settled on using a plain and simple and unadorned UI as possible, regardless of what the product is, as long as it is easy to use. My reasoning is that if people need it to be pretty before they'll pay for it then it's not really a pain-point that the product is solving. OTOH, if people are willing to hand out cash for the functionality then I'm onto something. [1]Want to do B2B, but will depend on what I can come up with.
- langsoul-com 3y ago
  A business requires sales, and support. Not just dev
- zhte415 3y ago
  Depends on how simple's simple. Having the bandwidth to troubleshoot an unexpected problem for a paying customer is a rough line I'd draw between side project and more than a side project.
petters 3y ago
Correct, not all things listed in the featured article are bad. Exploring ChatGPT/copilot for developer productivity also seems correct, for example.
meghan_rain 3y ago
correct, and this is the reason op is a swe drone (120k toc being a momentary blip), not a cofounder of a company IPOing tomorrow
necovek 3y ago
I don't think it's a knock on the approach, but rather highlighting an opposition between outdated tech on one side and ultra-modern, unproven tech on the other. IOW, hinting that using proven, modern tech would have solved the issues company was having more readily than jumping straight to AI.
- justrealist 3y ago
  I'm not sure there's a conflict here. A lot of my GPT4 usage is pasting in old crap and saying for example, "please rewrite this in modern React". it generally works.

intelVISA 3y ago

Simple CRUD apps don't really need a startup to be fair, they could be done as a side project these days.

justrealist 3y ago
Maybe, depends how much biz/dev and domain expertise is needed. Either way, I don't understand the complaints. OpenAI isn't going to steal your crappy webapp.
spaceman_2020 3y ago
A 30 year old “startup” I consulted with once was a very badly designed SaaS app that had somehow been in business for three decades. At first, I couldn’t figure out how this awful app could be in business when there were competitors on the market with better UX/UI and marketing. But then I learned that the bad UI had very specific features that professionals in their target industry desperately needed, and that the bad UX was so deeply embedded in their workflows that changing any of it would collapse entire multimillion dollar businesses.
- lelanthran 3y ago
  I'm exploring creating a CRUD/SaaS/or similar type of business.[1] I've settled on using a plain and simple and unadorned UI as possible, regardless of what the product is, as long as it is easy to use. My reasoning is that if people need it to be pretty before they'll pay for it then it's not really a pain-point that the product is solving. OTOH, if people are willing to hand out cash for the functionality then I'm onto something. [1]Want to do B2B, but will depend on what I can come up with.
langsoul-com 3y ago
A business requires sales, and support. Not just dev
zhte415 3y ago
Depends on how simple's simple. Having the bandwidth to troubleshoot an unexpected problem for a paying customer is a rough line I'd draw between side project and more than a side project.

petters 3y ago

Correct, not all things listed in the featured article are bad. Exploring ChatGPT/copilot for developer productivity also seems correct, for example.

meghan_rain 3y ago

correct, and this is the reason op is a swe drone (120k toc being a momentary blip), not a cofounder of a company IPOing tomorrow

necovek 3y ago

I don't think it's a knock on the approach, but rather highlighting an opposition between outdated tech on one side and ultra-modern, unproven tech on the other. IOW, hinting that using proven, modern tech would have solved the issues company was having more readily than jumping straight to AI.

justrealist 3y ago
I'm not sure there's a conflict here. A lot of my GPT4 usage is pasting in old crap and saying for example, "please rewrite this in modern React". it generally works.