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100 years seems like too large of a timeframe to forecast well. Imagine committing to $32,500 extra per student by the end and having deflation for example.

bleepblop 3y ago
Possibly the point? Do something so ridiculous to the point where forcing the legislative to do their jobs.
- votepaunchy 3y ago
  What do you think the legislature was doing here by writing a law?
  - bleepblop 3y ago
    While I don't know the specifics of Wisconsin politics, I wouldn't be surprised if the legislative branch was trying to gut the education budget.
    - achates 3y ago
      If you click the title of the post it takes you to an article where you can read the context instead of having to speculate. >Wisconsin governors have expansive partial veto power, and Evers got creative with his use of it in this budget. He crafted the four-century school aid extension by striking a hyphen and a "20" from a reference to the 2024-25 school year. The increase of $325 per student is the highest single-year increase in revenue limits in state history.
      - bleepblop 3y ago
        Thanks for that and I did. I looked into it a bit further because I felt the article was ommitting a lot of information. Apparently the current governor was an educator, so I'm sure he has an additional bone to pick with the current legislature. However, over the past 20 years or so there has been a huge push, nationally, to gut education. So I'm not surprised by this governor's move. He's playing the game with the rules he can.
    - lapcat 3y ago
      > While I don't know the specifics of Wisconsin politics, I wouldn't be surprised if the legislative branch was trying to gut the education budget. Correct. (I'm a Wisconsinite.) Wisconsin is one of the most gerrymandered states in the country, and as a consequence, the state legislature is dominated by Republicans, despite receiving fewer votes than Democrats. (State Republicans actually came close to getting a veto-proof supermajority but fell slightly short.) The Governor, who won reelection in 2022, is a Democrat. The partisan conflict is so bad in Wisconsin that a number of years back, one of our Supreme Court justices (who was formerly the speaker of the state assembly) physically choked another Supreme Court justice in their chambers. Needless to say, the Wisconsin Supreme Court is extremely partisan. Wisconsin is a weird state. Tammy Baldwin was the first open lesbian elected to the US Senate, while our other Senator Ron Johnson is... well, a total wacko who claimed that mouthwash cures Covid. And Wisconsin reelected both Republican Johnson and Democrat Evers in 2022. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
eesmith 3y ago
It's a shame no one can rewrite the law should circumstances change. /s
olliej 3y ago
So the first google hit[1] says Wisconsin spends 16k/year per k12 student[2]. So $325/year is a 2% increase, which is not significantly removed from inflation. Moreover this is an absolute amount, so the % increase will steadily decrease over time. This $325/student/year funding increase is above nominal 1.8% inflation for 7 years, at which point this "huge annual increase" has become lower than rate of inflation. A $325/year increase in budget for a hundred years is a funding increase of $32500, from $16000 to $48500. Continuing a fairly conservative assumption of 1.8% inflation, this would mean in a hundred years you've decreased funding by 50%, as simply matching inflation alone would require funding of $98000/student/year. Inflation is compounding, and like interest, it can result in unexpectedly large changes in total value. [1] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wisconsin+public+schools+funding+per+student&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wiscons... [2] https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/07/is-annual-funding-for-wisconsin-public-school-districts-16000-per-student/# https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/07/is-annual-funding-for-wis...

bleepblop 3y ago

Possibly the point? Do something so ridiculous to the point where forcing the legislative to do their jobs.

votepaunchy 3y ago
What do you think the legislature was doing here by writing a law?
- bleepblop 3y ago
  While I don't know the specifics of Wisconsin politics, I wouldn't be surprised if the legislative branch was trying to gut the education budget.
  - achates 3y ago
    If you click the title of the post it takes you to an article where you can read the context instead of having to speculate. >Wisconsin governors have expansive partial veto power, and Evers got creative with his use of it in this budget. He crafted the four-century school aid extension by striking a hyphen and a "20" from a reference to the 2024-25 school year. The increase of $325 per student is the highest single-year increase in revenue limits in state history.
    - bleepblop 3y ago
      Thanks for that and I did. I looked into it a bit further because I felt the article was ommitting a lot of information. Apparently the current governor was an educator, so I'm sure he has an additional bone to pick with the current legislature. However, over the past 20 years or so there has been a huge push, nationally, to gut education. So I'm not surprised by this governor's move. He's playing the game with the rules he can.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    > While I don't know the specifics of Wisconsin politics, I wouldn't be surprised if the legislative branch was trying to gut the education budget. Correct. (I'm a Wisconsinite.) Wisconsin is one of the most gerrymandered states in the country, and as a consequence, the state legislature is dominated by Republicans, despite receiving fewer votes than Democrats. (State Republicans actually came close to getting a veto-proof supermajority but fell slightly short.) The Governor, who won reelection in 2022, is a Democrat. The partisan conflict is so bad in Wisconsin that a number of years back, one of our Supreme Court justices (who was formerly the speaker of the state assembly) physically choked another Supreme Court justice in their chambers. Needless to say, the Wisconsin Supreme Court is extremely partisan. Wisconsin is a weird state. Tammy Baldwin was the first open lesbian elected to the US Senate, while our other Senator Ron Johnson is... well, a total wacko who claimed that mouthwash cures Covid. And Wisconsin reelected both Republican Johnson and Democrat Evers in 2022. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

eesmith 3y ago

It's a shame no one can rewrite the law should circumstances change. /s

olliej 3y ago

So the first google hit[1] says Wisconsin spends 16k/year per k12 student[2]. So $325/year is a 2% increase, which is not significantly removed from inflation. Moreover this is an absolute amount, so the % increase will steadily decrease over time. This $325/student/year funding increase is above nominal 1.8% inflation for 7 years, at which point this "huge annual increase" has become lower than rate of inflation. A $325/year increase in budget for a hundred years is a funding increase of $32500, from $16000 to $48500. Continuing a fairly conservative assumption of 1.8% inflation, this would mean in a hundred years you've decreased funding by 50%, as simply matching inflation alone would require funding of $98000/student/year. Inflation is compounding, and like interest, it can result in unexpectedly large changes in total value. [1] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wisconsin+public+schools+funding+per+student&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wiscons... [2] https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/07/is-annual-funding-for-wisconsin-public-school-districts-16000-per-student/# https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/07/is-annual-funding-for-wis...