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"I'm part of the reason you can't find what you're looking for but I'm getting richer for it, and for now so can you, until the whole of the internet is garbage

"I'm part of the reason you can't find what you're looking for but I'm getting richer for it, and for now so can you, until the whole of the internet is garbage meant for robots with no value to humans." Yeah. Not my style.

janalsncm 3y ago
The thing about SEO is, it’s only actually Google Search Optimization. Since Google has such a strong grip on search, the two are currently tightly coupled. However they don’t need to be. If someone created a niche search engine it would immediately invalidate all of the Google-optimized trash out there. If it solves a specific use case people will probably pay good money for it.
- instagraham 3y ago
  I already enjoy using phind and Bard a lot more than Google, it solves 90% of use cases I have for niche/troubleshooting knowledge.
rchaud 3y ago
Not mine either, but I have noticed on HN that while there's plenty of deserved animus for the ills of adtech, there is little when it comes to the topic of generative AI. We know that the lowest-hanging fruit use case for gAI will be to pollute the web further with machine-written content and clip art. It isn't to improve anyone's search results, it's to make somebody's bottom line go up, at the expense of the rest of us. I wish more people would be upset about that. I mean we can already see what's happened to the web via SEO gaming. An even worse fate is coming once gAI really takes off.
- stevenicr 3y ago
  "what's happened to the web via SEO gaming." - The way I've been seeing it differs slightly... Google's reactions to SEO over the years (and other reactions and actions) - has led to downranking so many good sites and props up sites that fit in with certain agendas. Once more AI takes off, I expect many more niche search and find portals to be accessed on a regular basis which will bypass google's deranking and censoring, and also bypass any google SEO problems that people think exist.

janalsncm 3y ago

The thing about SEO is, it’s only actually Google Search Optimization. Since Google has such a strong grip on search, the two are currently tightly coupled. However they don’t need to be. If someone created a niche search engine it would immediately invalidate all of the Google-optimized trash out there. If it solves a specific use case people will probably pay good money for it.

instagraham 3y ago
I already enjoy using phind and Bard a lot more than Google, it solves 90% of use cases I have for niche/troubleshooting knowledge.

rchaud 3y ago

Not mine either, but I have noticed on HN that while there's plenty of deserved animus for the ills of adtech, there is little when it comes to the topic of generative AI. We know that the lowest-hanging fruit use case for gAI will be to pollute the web further with machine-written content and clip art. It isn't to improve anyone's search results, it's to make somebody's bottom line go up, at the expense of the rest of us. I wish more people would be upset about that. I mean we can already see what's happened to the web via SEO gaming. An even worse fate is coming once gAI really takes off.

stevenicr 3y ago
"what's happened to the web via SEO gaming." - The way I've been seeing it differs slightly... Google's reactions to SEO over the years (and other reactions and actions) - has led to downranking so many good sites and props up sites that fit in with certain agendas. Once more AI takes off, I expect many more niche search and find portals to be accessed on a regular basis which will bypass google's deranking and censoring, and also bypass any google SEO problems that people think exist.