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Fair use is generally understood to be more flexible when it comes to educational purposes, but it doesn't extend as far as communicating a complete copy of a w

Fair use is generally understood to be more flexible when it comes to educational purposes, but it doesn't extend as far as communicating a complete copy of a work. For example, you can't upload a PDF version of a textbook to your class's group website. I don't think this contradicts the parent to your comment. There are cases where a teacher can make 30 copies of a portion of a copyright work for distribution in the classroom, and the comment is about those cases.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
> There are cases where a teacher can make 30 copies of a portion of a copyright work for distribution in the classroom, and the comment is about those cases. False, the comment is not about "a portion" of a work, it's about the whole work. I would certainly agree that an educator could photocopy a few paragraphs of a novel, or a textbook, or anything basically, if that work was 300 pages long, and that educator would be within his rights to distribute it to 30 students. A few paragraphs of a 300-page work is a negligible portion when considering copyright. My personal examples were very definitely about reproducing the works in their entirety. The blog post was about a page and a half, so with permission, I had no trouble making it a handout. The other documents were of comparable length, and it would not have worked to use excerpts. I really wanted the work in its entirety for my students to understand the topic. If an educator copied a full page of a one-page handout and distributed it to 30 students, they would definitely be in violation, as that is a reproduction in full, and not fair use at all. Ask any news aggregator site how much of a news article they are allowed to quote. They can't scrape the entire article from a website, they need to selectively quote from it so that it is a minimal portion of the copyrighted work. Percentages matter here. The GP didn't even address that question.
- joshuamorton 3y ago
  > False, the comment is not about "a portion" of a work, it's about the whole work. The comment doesn't actually specify whether the "material" is a portion or a whole work. It is perfectly plausible that the comment is about those cases.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    I hope you'll agree that it's a very, very different situation if a teacher makes 30 photocopies of 1 page of a 300-page book, vs. if he makes 30 photocopies of a 1-page poster, with intent to distribute those to students. It is perfectly plausible that the original comment, in referring to "material" was implying the former, but it made no distinction about the latter, and the devil's in the details, as they say.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

> There are cases where a teacher can make 30 copies of a portion of a copyright work for distribution in the classroom, and the comment is about those cases. False, the comment is not about "a portion" of a work, it's about the whole work. I would certainly agree that an educator could photocopy a few paragraphs of a novel, or a textbook, or anything basically, if that work was 300 pages long, and that educator would be within his rights to distribute it to 30 students. A few paragraphs of a 300-page work is a negligible portion when considering copyright. My personal examples were very definitely about reproducing the works in their entirety. The blog post was about a page and a half, so with permission, I had no trouble making it a handout. The other documents were of comparable length, and it would not have worked to use excerpts. I really wanted the work in its entirety for my students to understand the topic. If an educator copied a full page of a one-page handout and distributed it to 30 students, they would definitely be in violation, as that is a reproduction in full, and not fair use at all. Ask any news aggregator site how much of a news article they are allowed to quote. They can't scrape the entire article from a website, they need to selectively quote from it so that it is a minimal portion of the copyrighted work. Percentages matter here. The GP didn't even address that question.

joshuamorton 3y ago
> False, the comment is not about "a portion" of a work, it's about the whole work. The comment doesn't actually specify whether the "material" is a portion or a whole work. It is perfectly plausible that the comment is about those cases.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  I hope you'll agree that it's a very, very different situation if a teacher makes 30 photocopies of 1 page of a 300-page book, vs. if he makes 30 photocopies of a 1-page poster, with intent to distribute those to students. It is perfectly plausible that the original comment, in referring to "material" was implying the former, but it made no distinction about the latter, and the devil's in the details, as they say.