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Honestly, it's pretty reasonable. This is what it looks like when you really treat your party as separate from governance. They are not using public funds for t

Honestly, it's pretty reasonable. This is what it looks like when you really treat your party as separate from governance. They are not using public funds for their advertising. Contrast this with the last Conservative government, which made all of its publicly funded announcements from "The Harper Government" instead of "The Government of Canada." https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2012/06/harper-government-announced-new-measures-benefit-canadian-consumers-678199.html https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2012/06/harper-governm...

smsm42 3y ago
The point is not public funds. The point is, in public they behave like FB is so horrible no reasonable person can use their services, but when it comes to using the services not for public benefit, but for their personal benefit, turn out FB is not so bad after all. Evidently, using FB is beneficial for them. They are OK with benefitting themselves, but withhold same benefits from the public in the name of political posturing.
- throwawaylinux 3y ago
  Yep. If they believe these platforms are cost-effective ways to advertise, then actually choosing not to use them for public funded advertising would be an abuse of public funds, unless they can explain how it is different, which I'm sure they can't.
  - smcin 3y ago
    Right. For better or worse, Meta currently gives cost-effective targeted advertising. Would be interesting to see a graph over time of Canadian govt advertising spend, split by channel (newspaper, TV, radio, online social media, email) and by outlet. I imagine OSM (and email) have cannibalized the older channels.
- stubybubs 3y ago
  Political parties work quite a bit differently in Canada. The party structure, the part that purchases ads and such, is not the government. They can have opposing goals. One is governing, the other is trying to get elected. That's how we like it. Canada actually used to give federal funds to all political parties, including opposition parties, as long as they reached a certain level of votes in the last election. This leveled the playing field for campaign money. Again the last Conservative government got rid of this to try to starve the other parties, another example of what happens when this division is not maintained properly.
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    It real interesting the Venn diagram of vocal opponents of the Trudeau government and those silent about or in support of the Harper government.... Almost like is has nothing to do with what's right or just and everything to do with them angry about not having authority....
- jtode 3y ago
  O noes, politicians being hypocrites!

smsm42 3y ago

The point is not public funds. The point is, in public they behave like FB is so horrible no reasonable person can use their services, but when it comes to using the services not for public benefit, but for their personal benefit, turn out FB is not so bad after all. Evidently, using FB is beneficial for them. They are OK with benefitting themselves, but withhold same benefits from the public in the name of political posturing.

throwawaylinux 3y ago
Yep. If they believe these platforms are cost-effective ways to advertise, then actually choosing not to use them for public funded advertising would be an abuse of public funds, unless they can explain how it is different, which I'm sure they can't.
- smcin 3y ago
  Right. For better or worse, Meta currently gives cost-effective targeted advertising. Would be interesting to see a graph over time of Canadian govt advertising spend, split by channel (newspaper, TV, radio, online social media, email) and by outlet. I imagine OSM (and email) have cannibalized the older channels.
stubybubs 3y ago
Political parties work quite a bit differently in Canada. The party structure, the part that purchases ads and such, is not the government. They can have opposing goals. One is governing, the other is trying to get elected. That's how we like it. Canada actually used to give federal funds to all political parties, including opposition parties, as long as they reached a certain level of votes in the last election. This leveled the playing field for campaign money. Again the last Conservative government got rid of this to try to starve the other parties, another example of what happens when this division is not maintained properly.
- DropInIn 3y ago
  It real interesting the Venn diagram of vocal opponents of the Trudeau government and those silent about or in support of the Harper government.... Almost like is has nothing to do with what's right or just and everything to do with them angry about not having authority....
jtode 3y ago
O noes, politicians being hypocrites!