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Good. This was a dumb decision to begin with, fortunately someone convinced Elon that it was dumb. Now, I understand why the initial decision was made (to pre

Good. This was a dumb decision to begin with, fortunately someone convinced Elon that it was dumb. Now, I understand why the initial decision was made (to prevent scraping, and to control the costs associated with being one of the most (if not outright the most) scraped sites on the entire internet), but it's not like Twitter's ownership is poor, nor is the company bleeding money to the extent that its owner needs to "right the ship" so much that they impose draconian policies. They are owned by a guy worth nearly a quarter trillion dollars. He spent 45 billion dollars buying it with zero plan as to what to do with it. They can afford to loose a few bucks here and there so that everyone has access to its info.

valianteffort 3y ago
> Now, I understand why the initial decision was made Do you though? Because you immediately contradict that by saying the majority owner should be paying out of pocket for other companies to access twitter's data for free. The company has been toeing the line of bankruptcy since before Elon. Neither reddit nor twitter owe anyone or any company free access to the data they have been paying to host. HN is the last place I'd expect people to be so naive about bandwidth and storage costs, much less the mandate of a for-profit business.
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Both Twitter and Reddit benefit from open access to their content. They are currently discovering what the absence of that benefit feels like. Both platforms failed to confer with partners who mediate those benefits about how to recover costs. That's just dumb.
- NickC25 3y ago
  >majority owner should be paying out of pocket for other companies to access twitter's data for free Spare me the sob stories for the wealthiest person on earth (the son of people who made their fortunes exploiting impoverished Africans), not understanding the costs and realities (remember, he waived his due diligence requirements) of a company when deciding to spend nearly 50 billion dollars on it. Spending slightly more than the equivalent of the entire net worth of Nike's founder (the 26th wealthiest person in the world) on a social media platform known to be loosing money is quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my 30+ years on this planet. Twitter grew organically, as did Reddit, by having open access - anyone who wanted to see the content had the ability to do so. If Twitter was locked to non-account-holders from the get-go, they wouldn't have scaled to anywhere close to the level it did to be worth IPO'ing, much less being taken private for the amount it was.
  - valianteffort 3y ago
    >Spare me the sob stories for the wealthiest person on earth You're the one crying about it mate. It's because he blew 50 billion on twitter that he can do whatever he wants. >the son of people who made their fortunes exploiting impoverished Africans You have to be a seriously deranged person to hold someone accountable for the sins of their father. Ever heard those stories of North Korea where they punish an entire bloodline for one family members mistake. You're mentally on par with that.

valianteffort 3y ago

> Now, I understand why the initial decision was made Do you though? Because you immediately contradict that by saying the majority owner should be paying out of pocket for other companies to access twitter's data for free. The company has been toeing the line of bankruptcy since before Elon. Neither reddit nor twitter owe anyone or any company free access to the data they have been paying to host. HN is the last place I'd expect people to be so naive about bandwidth and storage costs, much less the mandate of a for-profit business.

Zigurd 3y ago
Both Twitter and Reddit benefit from open access to their content. They are currently discovering what the absence of that benefit feels like. Both platforms failed to confer with partners who mediate those benefits about how to recover costs. That's just dumb.
NickC25 3y ago
>majority owner should be paying out of pocket for other companies to access twitter's data for free Spare me the sob stories for the wealthiest person on earth (the son of people who made their fortunes exploiting impoverished Africans), not understanding the costs and realities (remember, he waived his due diligence requirements) of a company when deciding to spend nearly 50 billion dollars on it. Spending slightly more than the equivalent of the entire net worth of Nike's founder (the 26th wealthiest person in the world) on a social media platform known to be loosing money is quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my 30+ years on this planet. Twitter grew organically, as did Reddit, by having open access - anyone who wanted to see the content had the ability to do so. If Twitter was locked to non-account-holders from the get-go, they wouldn't have scaled to anywhere close to the level it did to be worth IPO'ing, much less being taken private for the amount it was.
- valianteffort 3y ago
  >Spare me the sob stories for the wealthiest person on earth You're the one crying about it mate. It's because he blew 50 billion on twitter that he can do whatever he wants. >the son of people who made their fortunes exploiting impoverished Africans You have to be a seriously deranged person to hold someone accountable for the sins of their father. Ever heard those stories of North Korea where they punish an entire bloodline for one family members mistake. You're mentally on par with that.