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>Being used as foundation for PlayStation OS, Netflix and others. Isn't that thanks to its license? They literally can be used in closed source software withou

>Being used as foundation for PlayStation OS, Netflix and others. Isn't that thanks to its license? They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit.

throw0101c 3y ago
Netflix gives back quite a lot. You'll see "Sponsored by: Netfix" quite often in commit messages: * https://www.freshsource.org/commits.php https://www.freshsource.org/commits.php There isn't much special secret sauce that Netflix has at the OS layer of things, so there's not much reason for them to keep the patches in-house (and then have to maintain as the public source rolls forward). Other vendors that give back are Dell EMC Isilon (keeping their OneFS code private), Juniper, Netgate, etc. Sony is unique in that it was a one-time fork, and now that the product is out there's not much churn in things. Most vendors have learned that keeping things in-house just causes pain down the road when you have to re-base with the latest FreeBSD release.
- monocasa 3y ago
  From what I've heard, they use FreeBSD pretty much just in their CDN appliances. Apparently their application servers are mainly Linux. There's a lot of weird reasons why you'd use FreeBSD in storage appliances that I have mixed feelings about.
- Freaky 3y ago
  https://freshbsd.org/freebsd?q=%22Sponsored+by+Netflix%22 https://freshbsd.org/freebsd?q=%22Sponsored+by+Netflix%22 3,975 commits.
Zambyte 3y ago
> They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit. This is not true of any of the "acceptable licenses" listed by FreeBSD. https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license/ https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license/ See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright".
- pseudonym0us 3y ago
  >See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright". Yeah, you will see the copyright if you are working at the company. Outsiders would never know it's a fork.
  - Zambyte 3y ago
    Read the licenses more closely.
    - pseudonym0us 3y ago
      Work in a project with BSD-licensed stuff.
      - Zambyte 3y ago
        If you're fine with violating the license, then there is nothing stopping you from closing the source to GPL licensed software without a word of credit. I'm not sure what your point is.
        pseudonym0us 3y ago
        No need to violate the license, just close the source and no outsider would know it's a fork.
        Zambyte 3y ago
        See clause 2 of both BSD licenses.

>Being used as foundation for PlayStation OS, Netflix and others. Isn't that thanks to its license? They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit.

throw0101c 3y ago

Netflix gives back quite a lot. You'll see "Sponsored by: Netfix" quite often in commit messages: * https://www.freshsource.org/commits.php https://www.freshsource.org/commits.php There isn't much special secret sauce that Netflix has at the OS layer of things, so there's not much reason for them to keep the patches in-house (and then have to maintain as the public source rolls forward). Other vendors that give back are Dell EMC Isilon (keeping their OneFS code private), Juniper, Netgate, etc. Sony is unique in that it was a one-time fork, and now that the product is out there's not much churn in things. Most vendors have learned that keeping things in-house just causes pain down the road when you have to re-base with the latest FreeBSD release.

monocasa 3y ago
From what I've heard, they use FreeBSD pretty much just in their CDN appliances. Apparently their application servers are mainly Linux. There's a lot of weird reasons why you'd use FreeBSD in storage appliances that I have mixed feelings about.
Freaky 3y ago
https://freshbsd.org/freebsd?q=%22Sponsored+by+Netflix%22 https://freshbsd.org/freebsd?q=%22Sponsored+by+Netflix%22 3,975 commits.

Zambyte 3y ago

> They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit. This is not true of any of the "acceptable licenses" listed by FreeBSD. https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license/ https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license/ See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright".

pseudonym0us 3y ago
>See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright". Yeah, you will see the copyright if you are working at the company. Outsiders would never know it's a fork.
- Zambyte 3y ago
  Read the licenses more closely.
  - pseudonym0us 3y ago
    Work in a project with BSD-licensed stuff.
    - Zambyte 3y ago
      If you're fine with violating the license, then there is nothing stopping you from closing the source to GPL licensed software without a word of credit. I'm not sure what your point is.
      - pseudonym0us 3y ago
        No need to violate the license, just close the source and no outsider would know it's a fork.
        Zambyte 3y ago
        See clause 2 of both BSD licenses.