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We make edge AI cameras. After focusing on services for a while, it has been a different type of journey to switch to the product. We did an open source pilot p

by h317 3y ago

We make edge AI cameras. After focusing on services for a while, it has been a different type of journey to switch to the product. We did an open source pilot product on esp32, and got surprisingly more interest than we thought, so now we are working on a high performance (4k, 60fps, AI chip) device. Lite-esp32 camera https://www.crowdsupply.com/maxlab/tokay-lite https://www.crowdsupply.com/maxlab/tokay-lite Source-code: https://github.com/maxlab-io/tokay-lite-pcb https://github.com/maxlab-io/tokay-lite-pcb Pro camera updats will be posted here: https://maxlab.io/store/tokay-riscv-camera/ https://maxlab.io/store/tokay-riscv-camera/

HockeyPlayer 3y ago
How do these compare to the Luxonis cameras? https://www.luxonis.com/ https://www.luxonis.com/
- m00x 3y ago
  Not OP, but I'm very familiar with both. Luxonis is way more powerful and has an Intel VPU (Movidius). It's not really meant to be a standalone platform, so it needs a host board (Linux SBC like the Pi). It takes a lot more power, but it can do 60fps on small Yolo models. Its resolution is a lot higher as well. ESP32-S3 has a pretty small memory capacity, and doesn't have H264-H265 hardware encoding, so you'll be on low-res, low-fps. It only does MJPEG (AFAIK) streaming, so you'll also have to deal with high latency if you want to send that data somewhere. The big bonus is that it's low-cost and low-power, and you're running it directly on the core without an OS. This means you can do stuff like sleep the cores until something wakes it up (like a PIR sensor that detects people), and it will start streaming in a second or two. TL;DR: Luxonis stronk, but needs big batteries or plugged in. ESP32-S3 can run on small batteries or solar.
  - moffkalast 3y ago
    Ngl I really wish Luxonis cameras supported running standalone after being configured once, OpenVino is such a heckin chonker to install and manage.
  - MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
    The ESP32-P4 has hardware accelerators for media-encoding, including H.264. Might want to check it out.
    - m00x 3y ago
      Is it out yet? I'm desperately waiting for it to be available.
      - MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
        Since they announced it half a year ago I would have expected engineering samples to be available by now, but there is nothing.
passwert 3y ago
Could you please clarify what you mean by ‘AI’?
- h317 3y ago
  By "AI" here I mean cameras that support running machine vision models directly on the device. We provide the device and firmware, and then on the application and model level it is up to the user.

by h317 3y ago

HockeyPlayer 3y ago

How do these compare to the Luxonis cameras? https://www.luxonis.com/ https://www.luxonis.com/

m00x 3y ago
Not OP, but I'm very familiar with both. Luxonis is way more powerful and has an Intel VPU (Movidius). It's not really meant to be a standalone platform, so it needs a host board (Linux SBC like the Pi). It takes a lot more power, but it can do 60fps on small Yolo models. Its resolution is a lot higher as well. ESP32-S3 has a pretty small memory capacity, and doesn't have H264-H265 hardware encoding, so you'll be on low-res, low-fps. It only does MJPEG (AFAIK) streaming, so you'll also have to deal with high latency if you want to send that data somewhere. The big bonus is that it's low-cost and low-power, and you're running it directly on the core without an OS. This means you can do stuff like sleep the cores until something wakes it up (like a PIR sensor that detects people), and it will start streaming in a second or two. TL;DR: Luxonis stronk, but needs big batteries or plugged in. ESP32-S3 can run on small batteries or solar.
- moffkalast 3y ago
  Ngl I really wish Luxonis cameras supported running standalone after being configured once, OpenVino is such a heckin chonker to install and manage.
- MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
  The ESP32-P4 has hardware accelerators for media-encoding, including H.264. Might want to check it out.
  - m00x 3y ago
    Is it out yet? I'm desperately waiting for it to be available.
    - MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
      Since they announced it half a year ago I would have expected engineering samples to be available by now, but there is nothing.

passwert 3y ago

Could you please clarify what you mean by ‘AI’?

h317 3y ago
By "AI" here I mean cameras that support running machine vision models directly on the device. We provide the device and firmware, and then on the application and model level it is up to the user.