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Yes, in the same way as "evangelist" and "novice" are everyday words in English. This does not invalidate their original religious meaning. Daisetz Suzuki I'm s
by pzel_ 3y ago
Yes, in the same way as "evangelist" and "novice" are everyday words in English. This does not invalidate their original religious meaning. Daisetz Suzuki I'm sure was quite aware of both the everyday usage and the Buddhist origins.
- sctb 3y agoNitpick, but this article quotes Shunryu Suzuki—the other Suzuki—not D.T.
- pzel_ 3y agoBeginner's mistake!
- kazinator 3y ago"Novice" doesn't originally have religious roots; in the story of its etymology, it got sidetracked into religion. Quite likely because the only dudes who knew Latin in the Middle Ages were in monasteries, and so they applied Latin words they learned to their circumstances. "Hey, it says here that when Romans brought in a new imported, inexperienced slave, they called them novicus. Let's use that for our newcomers! After all, we make them do chores, like slaves, LOLZ!"
- pzel_ 3y agoI'm going off of this entry: https://www.etymonline.com/word/novice https://www.etymonline.com/word/novice Sure the root word might be Latin, (and so is a majority of European vocabulary), but the specific usage of "novice" meaning "newbie" in English, comes from the monastic orders, via French. Monastic orders, which, in fact, did not "do stuff, like slaves, LOLZ", but were instrumental in preserving (or rediscovering) knowledge and technology from the imperial era.