> among their cavalier attitude to safety, as seen with the latest starship launch and the chief twat playing it fast and loose with his security clearance You

> among their cavalier attitude to safety, as seen with the latest starship launch and the chief twat playing it fast and loose with his security clearance You do understand that Starship is still in development, right? SpaceX is well known for their "hardware rich" development process. That doesn't seem to affect their operational reliability. Not sure what you mean by "fast and loose with his security clearance". He says wacky stuff on Twitter. I'm not defending what Musk writes there, but it doesn't really have an effect on SpaceX's reliability. > The FAA can halt launches for any reason. Not sure how this is relevant. > His allegiance to China and Russia certainly won't help. I don't think I've seen anyone establish any links between him and Russia. He had that one Ukraine peace plan, which was never going to work, but that isn't really a tie to Russia. Tesla does have a plant in China. But Boeing sells tons of planes in China; I don't ever hear people asking about ULA's ties to China. Same thing with Airbus and ArianeGroup.