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Well here's an easy* win for any new parents reading this: read to your kids. As much as you can. They will start school with a significant leg up! https://jou

Well here's an easy* win for any new parents reading this: read to your kids. As much as you can. They will start school with a significant leg up! https://journals.lww.com/jrnldbp/Abstract/2019/06000/When_Children_Are_Not_Read_to_at_Home__The_Million.9.aspx https://journals.lww.com/jrnldbp/Abstract/2019/06000/When_Ch... * edit: easy, of course, if you don't work a night job and have the time to read multiple books to your child every day

rcme 3y ago
> Results: Parents who read 1 picture book with their children every day provide their children with exposure to an estimated 78,000 words each a year. Cumulatively, over the 5 years before kindergarten entry, we estimate that children from literacy-rich homes hear a cumulative 1.4 million more words during storybook reading than children who are never read to. This study just says that kids who are read to are exposed to more words. It's basically like saying kids who go outside more are exposed to more sunlight. Sure, this is definitely a true fact. But does it matter? This study says nothing about how reading effects outcomes in childhood or in life. Wikipedia has a good article on the heritability of IQ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ > Various studies have estimated the heritability of IQ to be between 0.7 and 0.8 in adults and 0.45 in childhood in the United States. One thing that is interesting is that children have very random IQs that eventually converge to something approximating their parents' IQs. Perhaps this is explained by things like an early-life word gap that eventually gets filled with age.
- uneekname 3y ago
  > But does it matter? Yes, it does. It matters a lot. "The Word Gap ... has important consequences for children’s later vocabulary, literacy and school performance" [0] Even if this whole line of research gets debunked, reading to your kids won't hurt! > eventually converge to something approximating their parents' IQs I haven't read much about this research, maybe it holds more water than I think. But does it matter? Do you really think disadvantaged youth are such because of genetics? [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0885200619301334 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08852...
  - rcme 3y ago
    I think there are two types of properties: intrinsic and extrinsic. Your intelligence is intrinsic. It’s internal to you and is highly correlated with your genetics. Your success in life is extrinsic. It’s based on factors outside of you, like the circumstances of your family, etc. So, no, I’m not saying success is purely genetic. But, I also think there is a strong genetic component to one’s intrinsic ability and so not everyone can reach the top even if they work really hard.
  - nearbuy 3y ago
    If we're trying to help our kids, it would be nice to know which interventions actually affect adult intelligence. The word gap research isn't a randomized trial. It mostly shows that children from poorer families in the US hear fewer words. It's difficult to study because interventions often produce positive effects in the short term that disappear by the time the child reaches adulthood.
    - uneekname 3y ago
      > it would be nice to know which interventions actually affect adult intelligence sure, that would be nice. it does seem pretty clear that as a general rule, well-resourced students are more likely to get accepted into, and graduate from, elite schools. Happy to back that claim up with some research if you like. > The word gap research isn't a randomized trial No, its a growing body of research including many studies. [0] And it was an example I used to illustrate how well-resourced students achieve more in school, even from a young age. [0] https://doi.org/10.1080/02702711.2010.495638 https://doi.org/10.1080/02702711.2010.495638
      - nearbuy 3y ago
        > well-resourced students are more likely to get accepted into, and graduate from, elite schools. Happy to back that claim up with some research if you like. We agree on this, but it's also a major confounder for observational word gap studies. And though we try, it's very difficult to fully control for confounders. The holy grail would be interventions that can improve adult intelligence but unfortunately a lot of interventions that look promising in short term studies see their benefits disappear by the time the children reach adulthood. There don't appear to be any long term studies on this yet (I know this is a big ask).

rcme 3y ago

> Results: Parents who read 1 picture book with their children every day provide their children with exposure to an estimated 78,000 words each a year. Cumulatively, over the 5 years before kindergarten entry, we estimate that children from literacy-rich homes hear a cumulative 1.4 million more words during storybook reading than children who are never read to. This study just says that kids who are read to are exposed to more words. It's basically like saying kids who go outside more are exposed to more sunlight. Sure, this is definitely a true fact. But does it matter? This study says nothing about how reading effects outcomes in childhood or in life. Wikipedia has a good article on the heritability of IQ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ > Various studies have estimated the heritability of IQ to be between 0.7 and 0.8 in adults and 0.45 in childhood in the United States. One thing that is interesting is that children have very random IQs that eventually converge to something approximating their parents' IQs. Perhaps this is explained by things like an early-life word gap that eventually gets filled with age.

uneekname 3y ago
> But does it matter? Yes, it does. It matters a lot. "The Word Gap ... has important consequences for children’s later vocabulary, literacy and school performance" [0] Even if this whole line of research gets debunked, reading to your kids won't hurt! > eventually converge to something approximating their parents' IQs I haven't read much about this research, maybe it holds more water than I think. But does it matter? Do you really think disadvantaged youth are such because of genetics? [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0885200619301334 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08852...
- rcme 3y ago
  I think there are two types of properties: intrinsic and extrinsic. Your intelligence is intrinsic. It’s internal to you and is highly correlated with your genetics. Your success in life is extrinsic. It’s based on factors outside of you, like the circumstances of your family, etc. So, no, I’m not saying success is purely genetic. But, I also think there is a strong genetic component to one’s intrinsic ability and so not everyone can reach the top even if they work really hard.
- nearbuy 3y ago
  If we're trying to help our kids, it would be nice to know which interventions actually affect adult intelligence. The word gap research isn't a randomized trial. It mostly shows that children from poorer families in the US hear fewer words. It's difficult to study because interventions often produce positive effects in the short term that disappear by the time the child reaches adulthood.
  - uneekname 3y ago
    > it would be nice to know which interventions actually affect adult intelligence sure, that would be nice. it does seem pretty clear that as a general rule, well-resourced students are more likely to get accepted into, and graduate from, elite schools. Happy to back that claim up with some research if you like. > The word gap research isn't a randomized trial No, its a growing body of research including many studies. [0] And it was an example I used to illustrate how well-resourced students achieve more in school, even from a young age. [0] https://doi.org/10.1080/02702711.2010.495638 https://doi.org/10.1080/02702711.2010.495638
    - nearbuy 3y ago
      > well-resourced students are more likely to get accepted into, and graduate from, elite schools. Happy to back that claim up with some research if you like. We agree on this, but it's also a major confounder for observational word gap studies. And though we try, it's very difficult to fully control for confounders. The holy grail would be interventions that can improve adult intelligence but unfortunately a lot of interventions that look promising in short term studies see their benefits disappear by the time the children reach adulthood. There don't appear to be any long term studies on this yet (I know this is a big ask).