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The real reason is that kids wanted to have some fun, post cool videos on Telegram/Snapchat, and see their city's name added to the map. Just like during prote
by jedisct1 3y ago
The real reason is that kids wanted to have some fun, post cool videos on Telegram/Snapchat, and see their city's name added to the map.
Just like during protests. Rioters don't care about what the protest is for, they do it for the adrenaline.
That being said, looking at the videos during the riots, a lot of them really looked like video games.
In Paris, rioters even shot prostitutes as if they were in GTA.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoOn what basis are you assuming the role of spokeperson for all protestors and rioters? People live every day with the fear and grief that this could be them, or their friend, or their son. They care enough to take real risks to make their issues heard. It's so deeply cowardly to sit comfortably on the internet and say they don't really mean it when their every action says they do.
- jedisct1 3y agoDuring the yellow vest protests, I was lurking in groups where rioters planned their actions. A lot was also organized in plain sight in the comments of websites like demosphere. And I guarantee that they didn't care at all about what the protests were about. They were just looking for random protests to join. Adrenaline is what they were after.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoAnd to you this feels like sufficient authority to speak on the motivations and values of protestors generally? A protest sparked by a completely different event?
- jedisct1 3y agoWe're not talking about protesters. The riots were sparked by a completely different event, but "C'était pour s'amuser" https://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice/emeutes-sursis-et-bracelets-electroniques-pour-dix-hommes-dans-l-oise_AD-202307030964.html https://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice/emeutes-sursis-et-brace... Comments on the Telegram chats don't suggest more maturity.
- enterprise_cog 3y agoOn what basis are you assuming that all people have good intentions? Yes, those people exist. But don’t pretend all people or even a majority are out there because of that. There are political reasons, material reasons, and basic behavioral reasons people show up to these protests/riots. To say that no one wants to just watch things burn, or smash and grab, or assault others is to ignore basic human nature and is equally cowardly because it is a denial of the truth to satisfy your beliefs. To assume most protestors are good is equally as wrong as assuming most are bad actors.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoI'm perfectly comfortable with the wide range of motivations people have for participating in protests and riots. The comment I was responding to however is making assertions about "the real reason" and that rioters "don't care." Which I simply don't accept that they have the authority to make broad statements like that.
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