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People should complain about emissions and the lack of emission reduction. If Germany is producing a lot more than France, and this concerns you, you should com
by locallost 3y ago
People should complain about emissions and the lack of emission reduction. If Germany is producing a lot more than France, and this concerns you, you should complain even more bitterly about Poland because their emissions are 1) 2x as bad as Germany 2) in contrast go Germany they are not going down since the country is dreaming of nuclear energy.
Renewables can and do replace coal, as they obviously did in Germany. It does not really matter if you are ideologically aligned with another energy source, for whatever reason.
- fsflover 3y ago> If Germany is producing a lot more than France, and this concerns you, you should complain even more bitterly about Poland Whataboutism. Upd: I see you also do it elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36599216 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36599216.
- locallost 3y agoPeople should complain about emissions and emission reduction. Are emissions too high in Germany? Yes. Are they going down? Yes. Does it have a set date to remove coal from electricity production? Yes. So good things and a bright future, yet a lot of complaints. In case of Poland neither is the case. I have yet to see an article complaining about Poland, despite it being neither good, nor it having a bright future. Why is that?
- fsflover 3y agoWe do complain about Poland. But this is a thread about Germany. > Does it have a set date to remove coal from electricity production? Yes. The date is simply ridiculous. 2030 or so AFAIK? We expect much more effort from such a developed country.
- locallost 3y agoI am very interested in this topic and I assure you that nobody complains about Poland. I've seen even praise for their decision to prolong this situation and build nuclear plants. On the other hand, a country very much in deserve of praise like Germany is a constant target of criticism by various nuclear lobby groups, astroturfers and the like. You can see the effect even here on HN, it's a very common topic that "Germany replaced nuclear with coal", which is just simply false.
- fsflover 3y agoI do praise Poland for building nuclear plants. This is the only existing solution to the climate catastrophe. Also, it's one of the the most safe energy sources. This is not "simply false". This is effectively true, even though it might not be the intention. There are many similar discussions about it on HN. See for example this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35819870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35819870.
- locallost 3y agoSo Germany uses less coal continuously and plans to stop using it 2030. You say: terrible and too slow. Poland uses a lot more coal, has no real plan to reduce it, and wants to continue at the same level for the next 15 years or so. You say: awesome job. You can't be serious.
- fsflover 3y agoI said I praised Poland for building nuclear plants. I didn't say they did everything perfectly.
- locallost 3y agoThere is no difference between building plants and producing the vast majority of your electricity from coal for the next 15 years. The latter is the consequence of the former.