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Retail prices still seem at a record 40c/kwh or more. Perhaps tolerable with a C4 professor Fraunhofer salary, adjusted for inflation (unlike the salaries of th

Retail prices still seem at a record 40c/kwh or more. Perhaps tolerable with a C4 professor Fraunhofer salary, adjusted for inflation (unlike the salaries of the plebs).

passwordoops 3y ago
For all the issues I take living in Quebec I look at my 0.07 CAD/kWh and it reminds me this place does have some advantages
- hdivider 3y ago
  Interesting. So what are the disadvantages of living in Quebec? (Never been there.)
  - volkl48 3y ago
    If you don't speak fluent French and want to live there (as a tourist is fine, although outside MTL + Quebec City, English proficiency by the residents should not be assumed), your government dislikes you and is generally trying to make your life harder in as many ways as it can think of. I would expect that to continue getting worse. On the HN/startup crowd note, that includes mandates that business in the office be generally conducted in French if you have 25+ employees, and there's significant enforcement powers to those mandates now. Beyond that, the economy has lagged that of other provinces over past decades, although in recent years that's been less true - remains to be seen if that performance is a break with the long-term trends or not. ----- More subjective: It's generally going to be the "big government" model. Highest taxes on high earners in Canada, generally a reputation for more social services, more regulations. Climate's pretty rough to many, although not extreme by Canadian standards. Still, it's a big difference from Southern Ontario or Vancouver. Montreal is basically the only major "world" city, Quebec City is about the only other one of some national/international significance. While it may look big on a map or as a number, in reality nearly the entire population lives in a relatively small corridor and much of the land area of the province is virtually uninhabited and in many cases basically inaccessible short of a helicopter or serious wilderness expedition. It will not feel anything like being 4x the size of Germany even if it technically is, for an example. ----- Anyway, the power is cheap because it all comes from large hydro plants up north, they're blessed by geography in that sense.
    - hdivider 3y ago
      Fascinating. Seems like more of a frontier than even the US, in some ways. And curious point about big government. Thank you!
sgbeal 3y ago
In southern Germany, at the end of 2022, i got a letter from the electricity provider that prices were going up from 27c to 48c per kwh in a single bound.
ysleepy 3y ago
No they aren't. Prices range from 26ct/kwh to 31ct for consumers at the moment.

Retail prices still seem at a record 40c/kwh or more. Perhaps tolerable with a C4 professor Fraunhofer salary, adjusted for inflation (unlike the salaries of the plebs).

passwordoops 3y ago

For all the issues I take living in Quebec I look at my 0.07 CAD/kWh and it reminds me this place does have some advantages

hdivider 3y ago
Interesting. So what are the disadvantages of living in Quebec? (Never been there.)
- volkl48 3y ago
  If you don't speak fluent French and want to live there (as a tourist is fine, although outside MTL + Quebec City, English proficiency by the residents should not be assumed), your government dislikes you and is generally trying to make your life harder in as many ways as it can think of. I would expect that to continue getting worse. On the HN/startup crowd note, that includes mandates that business in the office be generally conducted in French if you have 25+ employees, and there's significant enforcement powers to those mandates now. Beyond that, the economy has lagged that of other provinces over past decades, although in recent years that's been less true - remains to be seen if that performance is a break with the long-term trends or not. ----- More subjective: It's generally going to be the "big government" model. Highest taxes on high earners in Canada, generally a reputation for more social services, more regulations. Climate's pretty rough to many, although not extreme by Canadian standards. Still, it's a big difference from Southern Ontario or Vancouver. Montreal is basically the only major "world" city, Quebec City is about the only other one of some national/international significance. While it may look big on a map or as a number, in reality nearly the entire population lives in a relatively small corridor and much of the land area of the province is virtually uninhabited and in many cases basically inaccessible short of a helicopter or serious wilderness expedition. It will not feel anything like being 4x the size of Germany even if it technically is, for an example. ----- Anyway, the power is cheap because it all comes from large hydro plants up north, they're blessed by geography in that sense.
  - hdivider 3y ago
    Fascinating. Seems like more of a frontier than even the US, in some ways. And curious point about big government. Thank you!

sgbeal 3y ago

In southern Germany, at the end of 2022, i got a letter from the electricity provider that prices were going up from 27c to 48c per kwh in a single bound.

ysleepy 3y ago

No they aren't. Prices range from 26ct/kwh to 31ct for consumers at the moment.