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Within climatology people like Roy Spencer or Judith Curry. Outside, there's stuff like these papers I posted a couple of days ago. https://news.ycombinator.co

Within climatology people like Roy Spencer or Judith Curry. Outside, there's stuff like these papers I posted a couple of days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36559554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36559554 Note the response - yes they may be nuclear physicists or hydrologists but they can't possibly comment on climate, they're the wrong sort of scientists. Also they even say they have a good understanding of science and then define science as "what 99% of experts believe" which is just hilariously medieval. These are just examples. I can't be bothered trying to draw up huge lists. Other people have done that, it doesn't matter, the crisis true believers just use a circular definition of expert in which if you disagree the world is doomed you can't be an expert, therefore, are not worth listening to.

secretsatan 3y ago
Yeah, typically I don't trust Neurologists with brain surgery, I prefer to go to a Podiatrist but people tell me they're the wrong sort of doctor.
- wampwamp 3y ago
  Yeah, but you would probably listen to a Neurologist about your lack of a foot problem if 99 out of 100 podiatrists told you 20 years ago that your perfectly healthy foot would fall off in 10 years if you didn't stop driving your car or you didn't pay them the money every day for the rest of your life.
- revelio 3y ago
  It's more like how you have to be careful with psychotherapists because they may try to sell you therapy you don't really need, and maybe your mate who's a surgeon points that out to you. But thanks for illustrating my point so perfectly. All the people who think they're most rational on this topic are actually the least rational. Relying purely on mental shortcuts and social cues works right up until someone figures out how they can game you for profit, which is what's happening here (cry crisis = funding, grants, status, fame).

secretsatan 3y ago

Yeah, typically I don't trust Neurologists with brain surgery, I prefer to go to a Podiatrist but people tell me they're the wrong sort of doctor.

wampwamp 3y ago
Yeah, but you would probably listen to a Neurologist about your lack of a foot problem if 99 out of 100 podiatrists told you 20 years ago that your perfectly healthy foot would fall off in 10 years if you didn't stop driving your car or you didn't pay them the money every day for the rest of your life.
revelio 3y ago
It's more like how you have to be careful with psychotherapists because they may try to sell you therapy you don't really need, and maybe your mate who's a surgeon points that out to you. But thanks for illustrating my point so perfectly. All the people who think they're most rational on this topic are actually the least rational. Relying purely on mental shortcuts and social cues works right up until someone figures out how they can game you for profit, which is what's happening here (cry crisis = funding, grants, status, fame).