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2023, year of the IPv6 for residential users? :)
by ajsnigrutin 3y ago
2023, year of the IPv6 for residential users? :)
- zapdrive 3y agoYou wish! The ISPs will not do it until mandated by the government. Petition your representative to push for mandated IPV6 adoption.
- austin-cheney 3y agoMy ISP, AT&T, is IPv6 to the house.
- eppp 3y agoAnd yet I bet you still have an ipv4 address too and half your things attached to your wifi dont support ipv6.
- zapdrive 3y agoIf every ISP had an IPV6 to the house/mobile, we wouldn't be having this debate. The argument is for the ISPs who still don't have it.
- eppp 3y agoISPs have ipv4 because our customers want to get to sites that are ipv4 only. We can't just tell them "oops we dont support ipv4 sites anymore" The fix the content side and the isps will migrate.
- viraptor 3y agoGetting an ipv6 address doesn't mean you lose your ipv4. You can use both at the same time. (And even if you don't, you can still proxy the traffic to ipv4 networks - mobile networks do it)
- eppp 3y agoI know that. But it doesn't solve the problem of people needing to continue buying ipv4 to serve new customers.
- viraptor 3y agoIt sure does from some threshold. Given enough users on v6, the question becomes "do we want to spend $X to reach Y% more people". For most companies there's high enough X and low enough Y where they will not bother. This already happens with browsers: sure, there's that one guy still visiting from windows xp - but we don't care he gets a completely broken website.
- eppp 3y agoIt is still cheaper on a 10y timeframe to buy ipv4 than it is to pay for a NAT box for ipv4 and to deploy ipv6 and run both.
- viraptor 3y agoDepends on a scale. How many addresses? And will you even get them anymore? Not to far away it will become problematic to even get approved for residential usage, so the choice will be Nat for ipv4 or a 6->4 gateway.
- eppp 3y agoI just got approved to buy another /20 at $40 each. I am sure Amazon is buying them and putting them on AWS stuff as well.
- zokier 3y agoAnd yet global ipv6 adaptation rate is ~40% with steady growth. Some regions are well beyond 50%, most notably US.
- ikekkdcjkfke 3y agoI disable ipv6 on my router and in windows althogh it's supported by my ISP. I just don't know the security and privacy implications
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoThey're no different these days than IPv4, since MAC addresses aren't involved any longer. Potentially slightly better privacy, but not anything substantially different.
- danpalmer 3y agoI live in the UK and have had residential IPv6 for many years. I also used to work for a UK-only online retailer and our traffic was around 40/60 v6/v4 back in ~2017 if I remember correctly.
- jonathantf2 3y agoNo IPv6 for me on either my phone or internet at home.
- kimburgess 3y agoBased on current trends, probably closer to 2024/25 for the global 50% mark. https://pulse.internetsociety.org/technologies https://pulse.internetsociety.org/technologies https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage
- gmuslera 3y agoI like the google ipv6 statistics ( https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html ). It might reach that mark for 2025 the global 50% mark, but it will be in a very asymmetric way. With just a handful of countries over 50% I doubt that IPv6 will be adopted by a meaningful enough majority to have IPv6-only external services, unless there is a stronger push for to have at least transition mechanisms deployed everywhere. Something that players with commercial interests in ipv4 trading like the one of the article will be against.
- DeathArrow 3y agoI have IPv6 at home since a long time ago. Too bad most websites and apps don't use IPv6.