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OP is talking about having a mechanism / Operating system for servers to easily deploy and manage. Atleast, that's what I understood from the original post. How

OP is talking about having a mechanism / Operating system for servers to easily deploy and manage. Atleast, that's what I understood from the original post. How does k8s help me deploy say a blog ? It's just too technical and geeky. If this was "Android", I just download some blog app, click and install. Don't have to worry about updates either.

viraptor 3y ago
Docker compose wraps the app and db in a few lines of config: https://github.com/docker/awesome-compose/tree/master/official-documentation-samples/wordpress/#define-the-project https://github.com/docker/awesome-compose/tree/master/offici... the extra config is for networking / db connections - you don't get those on Android because you don't run network services on it. K8s can do the same thing, but has more options.
piva00 3y ago
You can do exactly that with a Wordpress Docker container: install and run the container, it might even spin up a database for you if part of a docker-compose or you just rely on SQLite. The technical geeky aspect comes into making your blog available to the wider web through naming, you need to configure DNS, and serve requests. I don't see how an Android app that you can "click and install" would help to configure your DNS entries.
- eternityforest 3y ago
  I think in a few years at least some self hosting will have moved to things like cloudflare tunnels and ngrok, and domains and certificates will be a "Only if I'm getting paid to deal with it" kind of thing. Maybe to reduce latency there will be hosting services that have the tunnel proxy in the same data center as your VPS, and include the service and the subdomain with your account.
pjc50 3y ago
Install on what, though? Why is this preferable for the target user to just using a SaaS?
- nullcipher 3y ago
  privacy, data sovereignty , data ownership ? Would you host your email in china or say srilanka ? I prefer hosting stuff in my country .
revelio 3y ago
Sandstorm was an attempt to do this, but there isn't much demand. Why install WordPress when wordpress.com will run it for you as a service?
- nullcipher 3y ago
  As you sad, it was an attempt. We need more attempts.

viraptor 3y ago

Docker compose wraps the app and db in a few lines of config: https://github.com/docker/awesome-compose/tree/master/official-documentation-samples/wordpress/#define-the-project https://github.com/docker/awesome-compose/tree/master/offici... the extra config is for networking / db connections - you don't get those on Android because you don't run network services on it. K8s can do the same thing, but has more options.

piva00 3y ago

You can do exactly that with a Wordpress Docker container: install and run the container, it might even spin up a database for you if part of a docker-compose or you just rely on SQLite. The technical geeky aspect comes into making your blog available to the wider web through naming, you need to configure DNS, and serve requests. I don't see how an Android app that you can "click and install" would help to configure your DNS entries.

eternityforest 3y ago
I think in a few years at least some self hosting will have moved to things like cloudflare tunnels and ngrok, and domains and certificates will be a "Only if I'm getting paid to deal with it" kind of thing. Maybe to reduce latency there will be hosting services that have the tunnel proxy in the same data center as your VPS, and include the service and the subdomain with your account.

pjc50 3y ago

Install on what, though? Why is this preferable for the target user to just using a SaaS?

nullcipher 3y ago
privacy, data sovereignty , data ownership ? Would you host your email in china or say srilanka ? I prefer hosting stuff in my country .

revelio 3y ago

Sandstorm was an attempt to do this, but there isn't much demand. Why install WordPress when wordpress.com will run it for you as a service?

nullcipher 3y ago
As you sad, it was an attempt. We need more attempts.