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Carplay/android auto is sooo much better than Tesla.

by s17n 3y ago

8fingerlouie 3y ago
I think that's a matter of personal preference. My main use of Carplay is for navigation and entertainment (music/audiobooks). With Tesla you have Google Maps built in, which most people would agree is the best map solution there is today (if you can live with the privacy issues, but at least with Tesla you're not sharing your information with Google). The car even picks up calendar appointments from my phone, and suggests routing to any destination a meeting might have. It also supports displaying and/or reading out any messages you receive, as well as replying to them. As for entertainment, Tesla supports Spotify and Apple Music (and a handful of others IIRC), and in Europe comes with a free Spotify Premium "subscription" (only usable in the car). The only thing i use my phone for these days is listening to Audible, which works well over bluetooth.
- stabamole 3y ago
  I believe Tesla does overlay its routing onto google maps, but the actual navigation is coming from OSM ultimately. I’ve noticed Tesla making some really distinct navigation choices vs what appears on my phone in the past, and not in a good way. But it’s been improving over time, and one perk that’s been noted is that because OSM can be populated with data by your average person, Tesla owners have gone in to add intersections/roads etc in the past and improved their own navigation results locally
- ted13 3y ago
  Everything you say is correct, but the one thing I actually miss on our Tesla is Apple Maps. I have liked it better than Google Maps (or its Tesla version) for a long time -- like its turn/direction instructions (telling you the turn is at the next traffic light or stop light or ... is a lot better than the distance you get from Google Maps). And, ironically, I was eager to try CarPlay on a recent trip where there was no Tesla rental available, we rented a VW Tiguan, only to discover that for CarPlay to work you needed a USB-A to Airplay cable and I only had USB-C to Airplay cables... I even got a third party USB-A cable at a gas station, only to discover it too didn't work (likely it was cheap POS where they only ran the wires needed for charging). So thanks to VW not supporting USB-C (which our 2020 Tesla Model Y certainly does) I never did experience CarPlay...
  - 8fingerlouie 3y ago
    I agree that Apple Maps are better, but as a whole i find the infotainment in a Tesla to be very functional, and while directions do take some getting used to, it does work. > So thanks to VW not supporting USB-C I previously owned a VW ID.4, which has wireless CarPlay. Sadly, something in either CarPlay or VWs implementation causes the phone to run VERY hot while using it wireless, which in turn causes a lot of battery drain, which again means you will want to charge your phone. Conveniently the ID series have wireless charging (extra option) in a small enclosed compartment, which adds enough heat to make your phone shut down. Aha you might say, but i will use wired charging. The ID.4 has ample USB-C plugs, 2 for the front seats and 2 for the rear seats, and yes, they do charge your phone, but they don't allow wired carplay, so the heat issue persists. So yes, the car does support CarPlay, but most of the time it was not worth the trouble. Besides, any CarPlay implementation today should surely include Apple Maps EV Routing, which will more or less replace the built in route planner and let Apple do the route planning based on real time data from the car, which in theory could be almost as good as Tesla route planning, with the huge caveat that Tesla knows the drag coefficiency of each car, making it able to plan much more precisely.

Carplay/android auto is sooo much better than Tesla.

by s17n 3y ago

Carplay/android auto is sooo much better than Tesla.

I think that's a matter of personal preference. My main use of Carplay is for navigation and entertainment (music/audiobooks). With Tesla you have Google Maps built in, which most people would agree is the best map solution there is today (if you can live with the privacy issues, but at least with Tesla you're not sharing your information with Google). The car even picks up calendar appointments from my phone, and suggests routing to any destination a meeting might have. It also supports displaying and/or reading out any messages you receive, as well as replying to them. As for entertainment, Tesla supports Spotify and Apple Music (and a handful of others IIRC), and in Europe comes with a free Spotify Premium "subscription" (only usable in the car). The only thing i use my phone for these days is listening to Audible, which works well over bluetooth.

stabamole 3y ago
I believe Tesla does overlay its routing onto google maps, but the actual navigation is coming from OSM ultimately. I’ve noticed Tesla making some really distinct navigation choices vs what appears on my phone in the past, and not in a good way. But it’s been improving over time, and one perk that’s been noted is that because OSM can be populated with data by your average person, Tesla owners have gone in to add intersections/roads etc in the past and improved their own navigation results locally
ted13 3y ago
Everything you say is correct, but the one thing I actually miss on our Tesla is Apple Maps. I have liked it better than Google Maps (or its Tesla version) for a long time -- like its turn/direction instructions (telling you the turn is at the next traffic light or stop light or ... is a lot better than the distance you get from Google Maps). And, ironically, I was eager to try CarPlay on a recent trip where there was no Tesla rental available, we rented a VW Tiguan, only to discover that for CarPlay to work you needed a USB-A to Airplay cable and I only had USB-C to Airplay cables... I even got a third party USB-A cable at a gas station, only to discover it too didn't work (likely it was cheap POS where they only ran the wires needed for charging). So thanks to VW not supporting USB-C (which our 2020 Tesla Model Y certainly does) I never did experience CarPlay...
- 8fingerlouie 3y ago
  I agree that Apple Maps are better, but as a whole i find the infotainment in a Tesla to be very functional, and while directions do take some getting used to, it does work. > So thanks to VW not supporting USB-C I previously owned a VW ID.4, which has wireless CarPlay. Sadly, something in either CarPlay or VWs implementation causes the phone to run VERY hot while using it wireless, which in turn causes a lot of battery drain, which again means you will want to charge your phone. Conveniently the ID series have wireless charging (extra option) in a small enclosed compartment, which adds enough heat to make your phone shut down. Aha you might say, but i will use wired charging. The ID.4 has ample USB-C plugs, 2 for the front seats and 2 for the rear seats, and yes, they do charge your phone, but they don't allow wired carplay, so the heat issue persists. So yes, the car does support CarPlay, but most of the time it was not worth the trouble. Besides, any CarPlay implementation today should surely include Apple Maps EV Routing, which will more or less replace the built in route planner and let Apple do the route planning based on real time data from the car, which in theory could be almost as good as Tesla route planning, with the huge caveat that Tesla knows the drag coefficiency of each car, making it able to plan much more precisely.