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"electric cars for everyone" was the vision of the founders of Tesla, prior to Musk functionally stealing the company from them. "humans on mars" is just repea

by olliej 3y ago

"electric cars for everyone" was the vision of the founders of Tesla, prior to Musk functionally stealing the company from them. "humans on mars" is just repeating standard sci-fi tropes that have been around for 50+ years, while not actually solving any problem. "tunnels everywhere" makes sense for public transit, and literally any other case it's just extremely expensive roads - making it a vacuum just makes it expensive and also impractical. "direct mind machine interface" I dunno, it's just another sci-fi trope since basically the moment electrical computers, it has actual value for many injuries, _maybe_ it has value beyond that, but again he's not coming up with anything novel or new. Musk isn't some amazing genius, or revelatory thinker. His "let's populate mars" to solve "over population" surely indicates the opposite.

jahnu 3y ago
I will say he’s a genius at one thing; raising funds. How on earth he convinced people to invest in this I’ll never know.
- olliej 3y ago
  He convinced the Saudi government - who have been aggressively endeavoring to control content of Twitter, Facebook, and media in general for years - to get a controlling interest in Twitter. I assume they would have given money to literally anyone who could provide a plausible path to that.
rakoo 3y ago
> "tunnels everywhere" makes sense for public transit, and literally any other case it's just extremely expensive roads - making it a vacuum just makes it expensive and also impractical. "tunnels everywhere" was, by his own admission, a ploy to destroy the public will to build public transit because it would have been a problem for selling cars. He never wanted to actually build tunnels, he just wanted to lure people into not supporting public transit.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  > by his own admission Do you have a source? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like to see for myself where he was stupid/brazen enough to outright admit this.
  - asymmetric 3y ago
    - https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1167410460125097990 https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1167410460125097990 - https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460 https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-cali... - https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions/ https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions...
  - rakoo 3y ago
    It comes from a book, as is stated in this article (https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions/ https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions...) : > As I’ve written in my book, Musk admitted to his biographer Ashlee Vance that Hyperloop was all about trying to get legislators to cancel plans for high-speed rail in California—even though he had no plans to build it.
renegade-otter 3y ago
We already have tunnels under bodies of water! And usually it results in massive bottlenecks at the entrance. Entering NYC from New Jersey, for example, is a nightmare and can result in hours of stop and go before you actually cross the tunnel.

by olliej 3y ago

jahnu 3y ago

I will say he’s a genius at one thing; raising funds. How on earth he convinced people to invest in this I’ll never know.

olliej 3y ago
He convinced the Saudi government - who have been aggressively endeavoring to control content of Twitter, Facebook, and media in general for years - to get a controlling interest in Twitter. I assume they would have given money to literally anyone who could provide a plausible path to that.

rakoo 3y ago

> "tunnels everywhere" makes sense for public transit, and literally any other case it's just extremely expensive roads - making it a vacuum just makes it expensive and also impractical. "tunnels everywhere" was, by his own admission, a ploy to destroy the public will to build public transit because it would have been a problem for selling cars. He never wanted to actually build tunnels, he just wanted to lure people into not supporting public transit.

Nextgrid 3y ago
> by his own admission Do you have a source? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like to see for myself where he was stupid/brazen enough to outright admit this.
- asymmetric 3y ago
  - https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1167410460125097990 https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1167410460125097990 - https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460 https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-cali... - https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions/ https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions...
- rakoo 3y ago
  It comes from a book, as is stated in this article (https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions/ https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions...) : > As I’ve written in my book, Musk admitted to his biographer Ashlee Vance that Hyperloop was all about trying to get legislators to cancel plans for high-speed rail in California—even though he had no plans to build it.

renegade-otter 3y ago

We already have tunnels under bodies of water! And usually it results in massive bottlenecks at the entrance. Entering NYC from New Jersey, for example, is a nightmare and can result in hours of stop and go before you actually cross the tunnel.