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I switched to Debian 11 for the same reasons around Christmas. I also found out faster than Ubuntu 20.04 and the fan starts spinning less often. I've been on Ub

I switched to Debian 11 for the same reasons around Christmas. I also found out faster than Ubuntu 20.04 and the fan starts spinning less often. I've been on Ubuntu since 8.04. When I can I'm creating servers with Debian too, personal ones and for customers. The only problem there is that Letsencrypt uses a snap to update the certificates, even on Debian [1]. Not all my servers need a web server but when they do I usually use ngnix. I'm investigating alternative update clients with no hurry. When that is solved, goodbye to Ubuntu. [1] https://certbot.eff.org/instructions?ws=nginx&os=debianbuster&commit=%3E https://certbot.eff.org/instructions?ws=nginx&os=debianbuste...

vidarh 3y ago
If you pick "pip" instead of a specific Linux distro it gives you instructions without a snap.
- pmontra 3y ago
  I'm afraid that this is only a wrapper around the snap. I quote from that page > If you have any Certbot packages installed using an OS package manager like apt, dnf, or yum, you should remove them before installing the Certbot snap to ensure that when you run the command certbot the snap is used rather than the installation from your OS package manager.
  - Gabrys1 3y ago
    That doesn't mean the other means wrap snap. It just means in order to truly install via snap, you should remove the same package installed via other means before
  - vidarh 3y ago
    That seems to be a doc issue. It certainly did not install a snap when I just tested this, and the certpot python package it installs explicitly checks to see whether it is running in a snap or not, which would make no sense if running it outside wasn't an option.
jamespo 3y ago
I like acme.sh
voakbasda 3y ago
I switched to dehydrated after LetsEncrypt snapped their client.
Self-Perfection 3y ago
certbot is available in classic apt repositories in Debian and Ubuntu. No need to install it from snap. https://repology.org/project/certbot/versions https://repology.org/project/certbot/versions
- chupasaurus 3y ago
  Haven't checked, but looking at version parity between these 2 I think both have the same maintaining team for Let's Encrypt.

vidarh 3y ago

If you pick "pip" instead of a specific Linux distro it gives you instructions without a snap.

pmontra 3y ago
I'm afraid that this is only a wrapper around the snap. I quote from that page > If you have any Certbot packages installed using an OS package manager like apt, dnf, or yum, you should remove them before installing the Certbot snap to ensure that when you run the command certbot the snap is used rather than the installation from your OS package manager.
- Gabrys1 3y ago
  That doesn't mean the other means wrap snap. It just means in order to truly install via snap, you should remove the same package installed via other means before
- vidarh 3y ago
  That seems to be a doc issue. It certainly did not install a snap when I just tested this, and the certpot python package it installs explicitly checks to see whether it is running in a snap or not, which would make no sense if running it outside wasn't an option.

jamespo 3y ago

I like acme.sh

voakbasda 3y ago

I switched to dehydrated after LetsEncrypt snapped their client.

Self-Perfection 3y ago

certbot is available in classic apt repositories in Debian and Ubuntu. No need to install it from snap. https://repology.org/project/certbot/versions https://repology.org/project/certbot/versions

chupasaurus 3y ago
Haven't checked, but looking at version parity between these 2 I think both have the same maintaining team for Let's Encrypt.