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Give a chance to XFCE 4.18 please.

kelvinjps 3y ago
I find it that has way to many buttons
bobajeff 3y ago
That's actually the desktop I was using the longest before I realized I wanted a more feature complete desktop. For example I prefer a file manager with integrated file search over Thunar + Catfish. Also xfce has a bug where it will change the resolution everytime the screen goes to sleep. That being said I might've been happy with LXDE + xfce4-panel + Dolphin but it seemed safer to me to use one desktop environment rather than mix and match parts from the different ones.
- n3storm 3y ago
  Thunar search now lets you filter directory and offers a button to search with Catfish , click and it then opens Catfish with search results of the term you where looking for (no need to reenter search term)
  - bobajeff 3y ago
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're describing what I remember about using Thunar + Catfish. In Dolphin and Nautilus I'm able to search using the file manager and results are treated like another directory I can navigate back to them and select and/or run commands on them. It could be just my perception but I also think searching is faster than with Catfish. I really can never go back (until Thunar has that too).
- salawat 3y ago
  Why is a searching file manager a value add? I usually structure my filesystems to the point I know where everything is going to end up before it gets there. The only exception is image files, and even then, I try to structure things to keep the madness constrained. The only thing that adding search to a UI ever seems to accomplish in my experience, is giving UX people an excuse to foist another query language on the user, and decreases the overall navigability and discoverability of a filesystem. Yes, I understand there are lost causes who don't know anything exists that isn't on their desktop; in fact, more exist than is necessary because we've stopped exposing people to the fundamental units of organization inherent to information storage. It's at the point where every time I end up using a search bar, I twinge, because someone couldn't be arsed to figure out a way to help me actually come to terms with the shape of my data.
  - bobajeff 3y ago
    Not everything in my system is organized by me. In fact most of it isn't. I'm not going to reorganize all of the zip files or repositories I downloaded and extracted. I'm also not going to learn where the distro decided to put things that I might have to touch.
happymellon 3y ago
The issue I always had with XFCE was that the edges of windows were set to 1px which made window resizing terrible and I had to spend time Googling how to change the grabble area, until the next update and I had to do the same again. XFCE is awesome, but let down by some rather sharp edges.

I find it that has way to many buttons

That's actually the desktop I was using the longest before I realized I wanted a more feature complete desktop. For example I prefer a file manager with integrated file search over Thunar + Catfish. Also xfce has a bug where it will change the resolution everytime the screen goes to sleep. That being said I might've been happy with LXDE + xfce4-panel + Dolphin but it seemed safer to me to use one desktop environment rather than mix and match parts from the different ones.

n3storm 3y ago
Thunar search now lets you filter directory and offers a button to search with Catfish , click and it then opens Catfish with search results of the term you where looking for (no need to reenter search term)
- bobajeff 3y ago
  Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're describing what I remember about using Thunar + Catfish. In Dolphin and Nautilus I'm able to search using the file manager and results are treated like another directory I can navigate back to them and select and/or run commands on them. It could be just my perception but I also think searching is faster than with Catfish. I really can never go back (until Thunar has that too).
salawat 3y ago
Why is a searching file manager a value add? I usually structure my filesystems to the point I know where everything is going to end up before it gets there. The only exception is image files, and even then, I try to structure things to keep the madness constrained. The only thing that adding search to a UI ever seems to accomplish in my experience, is giving UX people an excuse to foist another query language on the user, and decreases the overall navigability and discoverability of a filesystem. Yes, I understand there are lost causes who don't know anything exists that isn't on their desktop; in fact, more exist than is necessary because we've stopped exposing people to the fundamental units of organization inherent to information storage. It's at the point where every time I end up using a search bar, I twinge, because someone couldn't be arsed to figure out a way to help me actually come to terms with the shape of my data.
- bobajeff 3y ago
  Not everything in my system is organized by me. In fact most of it isn't. I'm not going to reorganize all of the zip files or repositories I downloaded and extracted. I'm also not going to learn where the distro decided to put things that I might have to touch.

happymellon 3y ago

The issue I always had with XFCE was that the edges of windows were set to 1px which made window resizing terrible and I had to spend time Googling how to change the grabble area, until the next update and I had to do the same again. XFCE is awesome, but let down by some rather sharp edges.