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On a side note, I'm a CTO and I'm being seduced by Oracle's sales people due to their extremely low prices in my region. I'm on Azure and it's getting expensive

by haolez 3y ago

On a side note, I'm a CTO and I'm being seduced by Oracle's sales people due to their extremely low prices in my region. I'm on Azure and it's getting expensive. Can someone with actual experience using Oracle as a cloud provider chime in?

forkfork 3y ago
No specific experience with Oracle Cloud, but contract bullying on other products has led me to blacklist Oracle personally.
xtracto 3y ago
I tried oracle cloud for a similar reason and it was quite bad in several fronts: -their cloud console interface in general was bad - the technology is pretty rudimentary: after spinning up some ec2 instances and attaching some volumes, I needed to enter some strange custom commands in the terminal to make them useful (aside of the standard partitioning and mounting) - their cost explaining docs were worse than Amazon IMO. - for some reason they started spamming me with Portuguese mail (maybe because my last name looks like Portuguese?) - Somehow I cancelled my admin account but not some inner account so for some time i couldn't login but still had some volumes that were being charged... I couldn't delete them. - I tried to spin up one of their ready made wordpress instances but it wasn't working. I've since forgotten what was the issue but at the time I found it hilarious. Overall I wouldn't touch it for stuff related to work. Had very bad experience with them .
immibis 3y ago
Do you really need a cloud, or can you migrate to one or more dedicated servers which - unless your project is small enough to fit on one of those $5 servers that only exists in clouds - are probably much cheaper than you think?
- haolez 3y ago
  An S3 equivalent is very convenient.
  - immibis 3y ago
    Yes, but do you need it? Hetzner will sell you a server with 4x16TB of raw storage (so, 48TB after you make it RAID-5, 32TB if RAID-6) for about $100/month. On S3, that's $736/month. $368, if we assume the server is only half full. If you have good backups and don't mind some possible downtime, use it without RAID and you are getting storage for 1/14 the price of AWS (not counting the backups). Bandwidth is under a pretty generous "fair use policy" and if they decide you are not using fairly, overage is only $1/TB. On AWS, $90/TB and the free bandwidth is not very much. Are you worried that you'll hit a huge traffic spike and need to upload 20TB faster than you can provision a new server? If you really are set on cloud storage, B2 is cheaper than S3.
    - arynda 3y ago
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by haolez 3y ago

forkfork 3y ago

No specific experience with Oracle Cloud, but contract bullying on other products has led me to blacklist Oracle personally.

xtracto 3y ago

I tried oracle cloud for a similar reason and it was quite bad in several fronts: -their cloud console interface in general was bad - the technology is pretty rudimentary: after spinning up some ec2 instances and attaching some volumes, I needed to enter some strange custom commands in the terminal to make them useful (aside of the standard partitioning and mounting) - their cost explaining docs were worse than Amazon IMO. - for some reason they started spamming me with Portuguese mail (maybe because my last name looks like Portuguese?) - Somehow I cancelled my admin account but not some inner account so for some time i couldn't login but still had some volumes that were being charged... I couldn't delete them. - I tried to spin up one of their ready made wordpress instances but it wasn't working. I've since forgotten what was the issue but at the time I found it hilarious. Overall I wouldn't touch it for stuff related to work. Had very bad experience with them .

immibis 3y ago

Do you really need a cloud, or can you migrate to one or more dedicated servers which - unless your project is small enough to fit on one of those $5 servers that only exists in clouds - are probably much cheaper than you think?

haolez 3y ago
An S3 equivalent is very convenient.
- immibis 3y ago
  Yes, but do you need it? Hetzner will sell you a server with 4x16TB of raw storage (so, 48TB after you make it RAID-5, 32TB if RAID-6) for about $100/month. On S3, that's $736/month. $368, if we assume the server is only half full. If you have good backups and don't mind some possible downtime, use it without RAID and you are getting storage for 1/14 the price of AWS (not counting the backups). Bandwidth is under a pretty generous "fair use policy" and if they decide you are not using fairly, overage is only $1/TB. On AWS, $90/TB and the free bandwidth is not very much. Are you worried that you'll hit a huge traffic spike and need to upload 20TB faster than you can provision a new server? If you really are set on cloud storage, B2 is cheaper than S3.
  - arynda 3y ago
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