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The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.

by wyre 3y ago

tomohelix 3y ago
You should also consider the field and expertise of the users. Also, I am not specialized in data science but even I know that at some point, it is just so easy to cook up whatever conclusions you want if you have a big enough dataset. So I imagine that those who works with data analysis all the time eventually get jaded whenever they heard someone demanding drastic, even unreasonable, changes based on data they found.
- standardUser 3y ago
  The idea that the data in this case is ambiguous is laughable and has been for 20 plus years.
- RHSman2 3y ago
  It isn't data science. It is earth science.
worksonmine 3y ago
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- rfdsaljfds 3y ago
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  - worksonmine 3y ago
    Nobody, did I claim anyone was? I fail to see the point of your comment, did you understand mine?
yongjik 3y ago
Someone once commented "HN is a reactionary site" and (while I don't 100% agree with that) I keep thinking about it from time to time.
potsandpans 3y ago
average education and pay have nothing to do with it. a lot of hn users are bazingapilled techno-opportunists. climate breakdown confronts two axioms for what is probably a sizable userbase of this site: - nothing (bad) ever (really) happens - advancement of technology and industry solves all problems they have no incentive to be any other way. because of the high pay and education, most of these people will be able to live comfortably within the confines of the global north and presumably wealthy nation-state for the rest of their lives.
- tarsinge 3y ago
  Calling into question optimism and entrepreneurship can be a very existential question, I admit that believing the phenomenon is overblown and of the data dubious is very tempting given the mental weight it clears. But the irony for this population (me included) is that it’s the same as believing in afterlife to alleviate the existential dread of death, it’s religious thinking. People do great things without being death denialists, it should be the same without climate denialism.
cdzd 3y ago
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RHSman2 3y ago
Most people on here (generalisation) spend more time on a computer than in nature. If you spend time in Nature it is very obvious what is happening. Look at the world from whence it came and where it is going. Heating of our climate is but one thing.
ActorNightly 3y ago
I don't think its outright denial as much as a general question on whether or not humans are contributing to it as much as "authorities" say (especially when the climate change conventions are traveled to by jets that contribute more to global warming in one flight that a person can reduce in a year, iirc the stats), and the resistance to all the restrictions placed on middle class when upper class and government gets a pass. The other thing is that there were predictions made about some things like Miami being underwater in early 2020s that never came true, and the same type of predictions that are being made. So tbf, its not really that unwarranted to be skeptical.
- Timon3 3y ago
  Who made those predictions?

The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.

by wyre 3y ago

The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.

tomohelix 3y ago

You should also consider the field and expertise of the users. Also, I am not specialized in data science but even I know that at some point, it is just so easy to cook up whatever conclusions you want if you have a big enough dataset. So I imagine that those who works with data analysis all the time eventually get jaded whenever they heard someone demanding drastic, even unreasonable, changes based on data they found.

standardUser 3y ago
The idea that the data in this case is ambiguous is laughable and has been for 20 plus years.
RHSman2 3y ago
It isn't data science. It is earth science.

worksonmine 3y ago

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rfdsaljfds 3y ago
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- worksonmine 3y ago
  Nobody, did I claim anyone was? I fail to see the point of your comment, did you understand mine?

yongjik 3y ago

Someone once commented "HN is a reactionary site" and (while I don't 100% agree with that) I keep thinking about it from time to time.

potsandpans 3y ago

average education and pay have nothing to do with it. a lot of hn users are bazingapilled techno-opportunists. climate breakdown confronts two axioms for what is probably a sizable userbase of this site: - nothing (bad) ever (really) happens - advancement of technology and industry solves all problems they have no incentive to be any other way. because of the high pay and education, most of these people will be able to live comfortably within the confines of the global north and presumably wealthy nation-state for the rest of their lives.

tarsinge 3y ago
Calling into question optimism and entrepreneurship can be a very existential question, I admit that believing the phenomenon is overblown and of the data dubious is very tempting given the mental weight it clears. But the irony for this population (me included) is that it’s the same as believing in afterlife to alleviate the existential dread of death, it’s religious thinking. People do great things without being death denialists, it should be the same without climate denialism.

cdzd 3y ago

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RHSman2 3y ago

Most people on here (generalisation) spend more time on a computer than in nature. If you spend time in Nature it is very obvious what is happening. Look at the world from whence it came and where it is going. Heating of our climate is but one thing.

ActorNightly 3y ago

I don't think its outright denial as much as a general question on whether or not humans are contributing to it as much as "authorities" say (especially when the climate change conventions are traveled to by jets that contribute more to global warming in one flight that a person can reduce in a year, iirc the stats), and the resistance to all the restrictions placed on middle class when upper class and government gets a pass. The other thing is that there were predictions made about some things like Miami being underwater in early 2020s that never came true, and the same type of predictions that are being made. So tbf, its not really that unwarranted to be skeptical.

Timon3 3y ago
Who made those predictions?