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Just use Lutris. It can fetch various flavours of wine and manage your bottles. https://lutris.net/ https://lutris.net/

by mordae 3y ago

29athrowaway 3y ago
In addition to Windows software, it also works with web applications, DOS, retro computers and consoles as well. For wine, it has installation scripts that automatically implement the necessary workarounds for specific software. Such as picking a wine version, setting overrides, installing libraries, etc. It also creates a wineprefix for you with a recommended Windows version for that software. For example, you can get The Sims 1 complete collection from Internet Archive (abandonware at this point), and then add that game to your collection. That will download and run the installation script for it, saving you most of the manual steps involved in installing that game.
lockhouse 3y ago
That looks awesome! Is there anything like that for Mac?
- 29athrowaway 3y ago
  I guess this would be kind of similar https://wiki.playonlinux.com/index.php/Installing_PlayOnMac https://wiki.playonlinux.com/index.php/Installing_PlayOnMac
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    Thanks!
- bimguy 3y ago
  CrossOver
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - kator 3y ago
    +1 I use CrossOver, I bought the lifetime license to support them since they also upstream crazy stuff like running 32bit Windows EXE in MacOS etc.
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      Thanks…I’ll have to try it!
- Hamuko 3y ago
  There's a front-end for the new Game Porting Toolkit at least. https://github.com/IsaacMarovitz/Whisky https://github.com/IsaacMarovitz/Whisky
crabbone 3y ago
On one hand, this is also what I use, and it kind of works. On the other hand... Wine and NVidia seem to not like each other... at all. Every game will require tinkering with Wine and a bunch of things that are supposed to wortk with various NVidia drivers and video adapters. And there's non-zero chance that it simply won't work. Or won't work with your display manager / desktop manager / monitor connection etc. For instance, I play GuildWars 2, and after a long struggle to find a Wine version that would work with it, I still cannot get 3rd-party extensions to work (eg. arcdps)... and I abandoned all hope of figuring out why: way too many randomly but similarly named libraries with obscure purpose.
- deaddodo 3y ago
  My laptop is all AMD (AMD Ryzen 6800HS) and I think people have rose-colored glasses of the AMD situation. I certainly prefer it for many reasons: it's driver stack is open source, it has full DRI2 support, it works with Wayland, etc. That being said, it has plenty of it's own problems and I've run into many of them with Proton/Wine. I would dare say, more than my Nvidia laptop did (though, this was before Steam Deck launched; so I'm certain of it having improved). Ironically, Intel's embedded GPUs have the least issues overall; but are the least capable pieces of hardware.
  - saghm 3y ago
    Yeah, I think this is how I feel after using AMD GPUs to try to game on Wine for the past year after a few years of trying nvidia. I definitely prefer AMD, but there are _always_ weird things to try to work around on Wine; for more actively updated games (like MMOs), sometimes things will suddenly stop working even if they were running smoothly for a while. I think things are on average better now than there were a few years ago, and I hope they continue getting better, but right now I'm not sure there's any option for gaming with Wine/proton that doesn't require a lot of tweaking for performance at the moment.
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    It's not just on Linux though. My wife and I had literally identical setups with the one difference being the video card. I had an AMD card, she a NVidia. And the compatibility issues are real. For a specific example, Nvidia cards and Grim Dawn just don't (or didn't at least) get along, even on Windows - with about a zillion threads of such in the Steam forums for it, indicating it wasn't just e.g. a hardware failure type issue. And that wasn't the only game issues cropped up in. That's when we decided to replace her card with an AMD one, and we've had zero issues since. Another fun thing (again, on Windows at least) is NVidia's drivers forcibly installing telemetry, even when disabled in the install settings. NVidia was king of cards for quite a number of years, but they're really not the company they once were anymore.
ot1138 3y ago
Just tried wine for the first time yesterday to use a AFR meter. Did not work at all. Wine did not support the USB connection.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  Wine is meant for programs, not device drivers.
pmarreck 3y ago
I don’t know if I’m an outlier as an NVidia guy, but my frank experience is that Lutris is a janky PoS on any distro I’ve ever tried it on (Ubuntu, Manjaro, Arch, NixOS) Everything I haven’t gotten to work in Lutris has worked in Steam Proton by importing it as a non-Steam game. With far less hassle. Since Lutris predates Steam Proton and thus likely suffers as a result, I think it’s no longer necessary if you are a Steam user.
bananamerica 3y ago
Sometimes Lutris doesn't work, so I use Bottles.
its-summertime 3y ago
https://lutris.net/games/install/3596/view https://lutris.net/games/install/3596/view downloads and runs an MSI from a http server despite the file being provided also over https

Just use Lutris. It can fetch various flavours of wine and manage your bottles. https://lutris.net/ https://lutris.net/

by mordae 3y ago

Just use Lutris. It can fetch various flavours of wine and manage your bottles. https://lutris.net/ https://lutris.net/

In addition to Windows software, it also works with web applications, DOS, retro computers and consoles as well. For wine, it has installation scripts that automatically implement the necessary workarounds for specific software. Such as picking a wine version, setting overrides, installing libraries, etc. It also creates a wineprefix for you with a recommended Windows version for that software. For example, you can get The Sims 1 complete collection from Internet Archive (abandonware at this point), and then add that game to your collection. That will download and run the installation script for it, saving you most of the manual steps involved in installing that game.

lockhouse 3y ago

That looks awesome! Is there anything like that for Mac?

29athrowaway 3y ago
I guess this would be kind of similar https://wiki.playonlinux.com/index.php/Installing_PlayOnMac https://wiki.playonlinux.com/index.php/Installing_PlayOnMac
- lockhouse 3y ago
  Thanks!
bimguy 3y ago
CrossOver
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- kator 3y ago
  +1 I use CrossOver, I bought the lifetime license to support them since they also upstream crazy stuff like running 32bit Windows EXE in MacOS etc.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    Thanks…I’ll have to try it!
Hamuko 3y ago
There's a front-end for the new Game Porting Toolkit at least. https://github.com/IsaacMarovitz/Whisky https://github.com/IsaacMarovitz/Whisky

crabbone 3y ago

On one hand, this is also what I use, and it kind of works. On the other hand... Wine and NVidia seem to not like each other... at all. Every game will require tinkering with Wine and a bunch of things that are supposed to wortk with various NVidia drivers and video adapters. And there's non-zero chance that it simply won't work. Or won't work with your display manager / desktop manager / monitor connection etc. For instance, I play GuildWars 2, and after a long struggle to find a Wine version that would work with it, I still cannot get 3rd-party extensions to work (eg. arcdps)... and I abandoned all hope of figuring out why: way too many randomly but similarly named libraries with obscure purpose.

deaddodo 3y ago
My laptop is all AMD (AMD Ryzen 6800HS) and I think people have rose-colored glasses of the AMD situation. I certainly prefer it for many reasons: it's driver stack is open source, it has full DRI2 support, it works with Wayland, etc. That being said, it has plenty of it's own problems and I've run into many of them with Proton/Wine. I would dare say, more than my Nvidia laptop did (though, this was before Steam Deck launched; so I'm certain of it having improved). Ironically, Intel's embedded GPUs have the least issues overall; but are the least capable pieces of hardware.
- saghm 3y ago
  Yeah, I think this is how I feel after using AMD GPUs to try to game on Wine for the past year after a few years of trying nvidia. I definitely prefer AMD, but there are _always_ weird things to try to work around on Wine; for more actively updated games (like MMOs), sometimes things will suddenly stop working even if they were running smoothly for a while. I think things are on average better now than there were a few years ago, and I hope they continue getting better, but right now I'm not sure there's any option for gaming with Wine/proton that doesn't require a lot of tweaking for performance at the moment.
- somenameforme 3y ago
  It's not just on Linux though. My wife and I had literally identical setups with the one difference being the video card. I had an AMD card, she a NVidia. And the compatibility issues are real. For a specific example, Nvidia cards and Grim Dawn just don't (or didn't at least) get along, even on Windows - with about a zillion threads of such in the Steam forums for it, indicating it wasn't just e.g. a hardware failure type issue. And that wasn't the only game issues cropped up in. That's when we decided to replace her card with an AMD one, and we've had zero issues since. Another fun thing (again, on Windows at least) is NVidia's drivers forcibly installing telemetry, even when disabled in the install settings. NVidia was king of cards for quite a number of years, but they're really not the company they once were anymore.

ot1138 3y ago

Just tried wine for the first time yesterday to use a AFR meter. Did not work at all. Wine did not support the USB connection.

boomboomsubban 3y ago
Wine is meant for programs, not device drivers.

pmarreck 3y ago

I don’t know if I’m an outlier as an NVidia guy, but my frank experience is that Lutris is a janky PoS on any distro I’ve ever tried it on (Ubuntu, Manjaro, Arch, NixOS) Everything I haven’t gotten to work in Lutris has worked in Steam Proton by importing it as a non-Steam game. With far less hassle. Since Lutris predates Steam Proton and thus likely suffers as a result, I think it’s no longer necessary if you are a Steam user.

bananamerica 3y ago

Sometimes Lutris doesn't work, so I use Bottles.

its-summertime 3y ago

https://lutris.net/games/install/3596/view https://lutris.net/games/install/3596/view downloads and runs an MSI from a http server despite the file being provided also over https