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This was the same argument against search engines and in favor human curated hierarchies like original Yahoo and DMoz. How do you Wikipedia being used for prod
by jonathankoren 3y ago
This was the same argument against search engines and in favor human curated hierarchies like original Yahoo and DMoz.
How do you Wikipedia being used for products period, let alone used as data products, since that’s also repurposed unpaid labor?
- nicbou 3y agoWikipedia hosts people's hard work and makes it available to the world. Search engines help connect people to the things they want. At least they mostly do. AI inserts itself in the middle and strips the creators of credit, recognition or income.
- jonathankoren 3y agoGiven that you used the term “AI”, you may not know that there’s a lot more to general web search engine beyond a simple inverted index. There are multiple models (ie “AI”) used to determine things such as query intent, term disambiguation, query classification, and that’s even before we get to results ranking, or relevant snippet detection. So now, with that knowledge, do you believe that Wikipedia, or even the web crawl itself (because that’s literally what we’re talking about, a web crawl) should be used for anything beyond term naïve term indexing?
- nicbou 3y agoGiven the context, it's assumed that "AI" will not be used merely for providing better search results, but for keeping people on Google.com with "original" answers.
- jonathankoren 3y agoSo just like the already existing info boxes, which I presume you have a moral problem with?
- nicbou 3y agoYou can opt out of them. I'm fine with them, although they tend to be comically wrong.
- djhn 3y agoIf I want to read up more on this, could you throw some search terms at me that would help me find some more specific pieces of this conversation/debate around search engines' access to data? Any books, particular legal cases, prominent people or organisations engaged in this debate?