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Or the first officer just didn’t care. He didn’t call it up in the post interviews as something that he felt uncomfortable about. Sexism is shockingly rampant.

eastbound 3y ago
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- foobarbecue 3y ago
  Dang, that really sucks about your formative experiences. I'm sorry for you and hope you don't have to spend the rest of your life harboring a secret hatred for half of all humans. I'm guessing that at some level you realize women are people and it's not healthy or sensible to despise them as a group, but it's not an opinion you can just "fix". Have you tried counselling for this? And frankly, yeah, it's disqualifying. Having read this comment, I wouldn't consider hiring you for any position or voluntarily working with you at all until I had some assurance that you're able to transcend this issue. (n.b. I'm a straight, cis, white, man)
- jacquesm 3y ago
  > I personally despise women At some point you have to deal with the fact that your formative years are not an excuse for holding a life-long grudge against such a large group of people. This makes no sense at all.
- bbor 3y ago
  I’m having trouble parsing your comment. What behavior falls under “men being humans”? Like, “we’re all flawed” or the killing-your-wife idea from the article? Also obviously on board with the other comments explaining that bad childhood experiences are not an excuse to form beliefs you know to be biased and false.
cat_plus_plus 3y ago
You don't think women might trade tirades about men when having off the record conversation with just two of them in the cockpit? People vent, it doesn't mean much by itself. If he had a fight with a male copilot, he may have had a different tirade.
- foobarbecue 3y ago
  Agreed. Women can be certainly be sexist and should be held to the same standard as men. If a woman crewmember said women can't be blamed for murdering annoying husbands while taxiing a 737, that would absolutely be inappropriate. And, the main point here wasn't that there was fight followed by sexist reflections on said fight, but that there was a fight.
  - WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
    That reminds me of this incident https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/crazed-pilot-rants-about-politics-and-divorce-over-plane-intercom/ https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/crazed-pilot-rants-about-polit...
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  > You don't think women might trade tirades about men when having off the record conversation Just in case it's news to anyone: they absolutely do. It's very eye opening when you witness such things. Women can be and often are just as hateful as men. Hate is a normal human emotion.

eastbound 3y ago

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foobarbecue 3y ago
Dang, that really sucks about your formative experiences. I'm sorry for you and hope you don't have to spend the rest of your life harboring a secret hatred for half of all humans. I'm guessing that at some level you realize women are people and it's not healthy or sensible to despise them as a group, but it's not an opinion you can just "fix". Have you tried counselling for this? And frankly, yeah, it's disqualifying. Having read this comment, I wouldn't consider hiring you for any position or voluntarily working with you at all until I had some assurance that you're able to transcend this issue. (n.b. I'm a straight, cis, white, man)
jacquesm 3y ago
> I personally despise women At some point you have to deal with the fact that your formative years are not an excuse for holding a life-long grudge against such a large group of people. This makes no sense at all.
bbor 3y ago
I’m having trouble parsing your comment. What behavior falls under “men being humans”? Like, “we’re all flawed” or the killing-your-wife idea from the article? Also obviously on board with the other comments explaining that bad childhood experiences are not an excuse to form beliefs you know to be biased and false.

cat_plus_plus 3y ago

You don't think women might trade tirades about men when having off the record conversation with just two of them in the cockpit? People vent, it doesn't mean much by itself. If he had a fight with a male copilot, he may have had a different tirade.

foobarbecue 3y ago
Agreed. Women can be certainly be sexist and should be held to the same standard as men. If a woman crewmember said women can't be blamed for murdering annoying husbands while taxiing a 737, that would absolutely be inappropriate. And, the main point here wasn't that there was fight followed by sexist reflections on said fight, but that there was a fight.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  That reminds me of this incident https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/crazed-pilot-rants-about-politics-and-divorce-over-plane-intercom/ https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/crazed-pilot-rants-about-polit...
matheusmoreira 3y ago
> You don't think women might trade tirades about men when having off the record conversation Just in case it's news to anyone: they absolutely do. It's very eye opening when you witness such things. Women can be and often are just as hateful as men. Hate is a normal human emotion.