> programming is completely artless Strong disagree - although it depends on how you define art Is adding form to function artless? Is architecture artless?

> programming is completely artless Strong disagree - although it depends on how you define art Is adding form to function artless? Is architecture artless? If you use a highly choreographed engineered process for creating a piece of art - does that make the outcome artless? One way I categorise artists I have met is engineer-type artists versus discovery-type artists: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31981875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31981875 i also think art is defined by the perception of the viewer (and has far less to do with the creator than is usually presumed!)