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> Can you elaborate on this? I've always thought a mural was just a type of graffiti? According to Wikipedia it’s the opposite: a graffiti is a type of mural [

by hk__2 3y ago

> Can you elaborate on this? I've always thought a mural was just a type of graffiti? According to Wikipedia it’s the opposite: a graffiti is a type of mural [1]. However at least in French and in Italian a graffiti is an inscription on a wall, often done as vandalism, while a mural(e) is more like a fresco which often takes the full wall. As a French, for me this [2] is a mural and this [3] is a graffiti. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mural https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mural [2]: https://www.parisenigmes.com/PICTURE/street-art-paris13.webp https://www.parisenigmes.com/PICTURE/street-art-paris13.webp [3]: https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/leparisien/TPFFAN7DI5FFTAHFV56AAEPTQQ.jpg https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/lep...

vitorgrs 3y ago
Weird, in Brazil is the other way! Graffiti in Brazil is art, for vandalism we call pixação.
lucideer 3y ago
Is graffiti always text? I know it's common but I didn't realise it was a rule. What about something like this https://maps.app.goo.gl/oCbe2DZW1vqyXJ2h9?g_st=ic https://maps.app.goo.gl/oCbe2DZW1vqyXJ2h9?g_st=ic
- dfxm12 3y ago
  This thread is showing how words have different meanings in different places. In my slice of the world, graffiti is not limited to text. A tag is though.
seoulmetro 3y ago
They're both graffiti. Graffiti can be beautiful or art to some people or not be. But if the person did not build the building with that mural/art on it to start, or did it at a later date as part of the same project, it is graffiti in the modern sense of the word (in English). People thinking it is art, or thinking it is beautiful does not remove the aspect of it being graffiti. Even a large advertisement would be graffiti. I would hate to live in a building that had a huge mural go up after I moved in personally, but that also doesn't make it graffiti or not.
zwaps 3y ago
In Germany, graffiti is the overarching category and the vandalism are called "tags"
- karlshea 3y ago
  That’s also how it’s referred to here in the Midwestern US
- Namari 3y ago
  It's the same in France actually
_fat_santa 3y ago
My litmus test is "was it asked to be put there". I live in Denver and after we won the NBA finals a local artist put this up this[1] mural and it was coordinated with the business + building owner + local govt. I would call that a "mural" versus "graffiti". Now if you go out to our "warehouse district" you will often see "graffiti", that is stuff the owners never asked for, some kids just showed up and tagged the building in the middle of the night. [1]: https://media1.westword.com/den/imager/u/magnum/17103041/image-20230614-210452-708.jpeg?cb=1686838927 https://media1.westword.com/den/imager/u/magnum/17103041/ima...

by hk__2 3y ago

vitorgrs 3y ago

Weird, in Brazil is the other way! Graffiti in Brazil is art, for vandalism we call pixação.

lucideer 3y ago

Is graffiti always text? I know it's common but I didn't realise it was a rule. What about something like this https://maps.app.goo.gl/oCbe2DZW1vqyXJ2h9?g_st=ic https://maps.app.goo.gl/oCbe2DZW1vqyXJ2h9?g_st=ic

dfxm12 3y ago
This thread is showing how words have different meanings in different places. In my slice of the world, graffiti is not limited to text. A tag is though.

seoulmetro 3y ago

They're both graffiti. Graffiti can be beautiful or art to some people or not be. But if the person did not build the building with that mural/art on it to start, or did it at a later date as part of the same project, it is graffiti in the modern sense of the word (in English). People thinking it is art, or thinking it is beautiful does not remove the aspect of it being graffiti. Even a large advertisement would be graffiti. I would hate to live in a building that had a huge mural go up after I moved in personally, but that also doesn't make it graffiti or not.

zwaps 3y ago

In Germany, graffiti is the overarching category and the vandalism are called "tags"

karlshea 3y ago
That’s also how it’s referred to here in the Midwestern US
Namari 3y ago
It's the same in France actually

_fat_santa 3y ago

My litmus test is "was it asked to be put there". I live in Denver and after we won the NBA finals a local artist put this up this[1] mural and it was coordinated with the business + building owner + local govt. I would call that a "mural" versus "graffiti". Now if you go out to our "warehouse district" you will often see "graffiti", that is stuff the owners never asked for, some kids just showed up and tagged the building in the middle of the night. [1]: https://media1.westword.com/den/imager/u/magnum/17103041/image-20230614-210452-708.jpeg?cb=1686838927 https://media1.westword.com/den/imager/u/magnum/17103041/ima...