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I'm surviving just fine by not using any LLMs.

weevil 3y ago
Post this comment on LinkedIn and see how long it takes for some unqualified tech 'speaker' to tell you you're about to be left in the dirt!
- isanjay 3y ago
  They are called AI bros I think.
  - pavel_lishin 3y ago
    aiholes.
    - weevil 3y ago
      Stealing this!
- 1270018080 3y ago
  12 months ago, they were web3 experts
  - impissedoff1 3y ago
    Hey now, connecting a wallet to your browser by JavaScript and approving limitless permissions you can't see is the future!
claytongulick 3y ago
Me too. I'm not an expert, but I'd say I'm a strongly average vim user. But even at that skill level with vim, I haven't seen an area where LLMs would increase my velocity. Quite the opposite. It would completely interrupt my flow to have to constantly stop and do a code review while I'm writing. With good plugins, templates and macros in vim/vscode - velocity writing code isn't the issue. The stuff that takes all the time is UX tweaks and reasoning about architecture, business constraints, and the correct level of optimization for the company's maturity.
- gfodor 3y ago
  Have you actually tried it? Copilot + vim for me is faster, and less frustrating tbh, than vim without Copilot. Typing obvious things is a PITA, and in code we type a lot of obvious things.
  - lumb63 3y ago
    The hype around AI coding assistants has recently inspired me to improve my efficiency in writing code. I started using NeoVim instead of vim to get access to LSP, for autocomplete. I’ve found it actually slows me down because I can type nearly anything faster than the LSP can synthesize a response and I’m able to visually process the options, select one, and input it into the computer. I’ve never compared against an AI coding assistant, so maybe that’s different, but my experience has been that fast typing speed combined with understanding of the task at hand and what code must be written nullifies almost all benefit of a coding assistant.
    - gfodor 3y ago
      An AI coding assistant is different, it will write an entire loop, including the body, with proper guards, and so on, in 1-2 seconds.
      - couchand 3y ago
        Maybe... or maybe it's got the same off-by-one error from the StackOverflow answer it's parrotting?
        gfodor 3y ago
        it's still faster
- cornel_io 3y ago
  Have you tried to develop in a language or environment that you have 0 familiarity with? I find in those cases I'm up and running at least 3-4x as fast, cutting weeks off the learning curve.
relativeMeans 3y ago
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Post this comment on LinkedIn and see how long it takes for some unqualified tech 'speaker' to tell you you're about to be left in the dirt!

isanjay 3y ago
They are called AI bros I think.
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  aiholes.
  - weevil 3y ago
    Stealing this!
1270018080 3y ago
12 months ago, they were web3 experts
- impissedoff1 3y ago
  Hey now, connecting a wallet to your browser by JavaScript and approving limitless permissions you can't see is the future!

claytongulick 3y ago

Me too. I'm not an expert, but I'd say I'm a strongly average vim user. But even at that skill level with vim, I haven't seen an area where LLMs would increase my velocity. Quite the opposite. It would completely interrupt my flow to have to constantly stop and do a code review while I'm writing. With good plugins, templates and macros in vim/vscode - velocity writing code isn't the issue. The stuff that takes all the time is UX tweaks and reasoning about architecture, business constraints, and the correct level of optimization for the company's maturity.

gfodor 3y ago
Have you actually tried it? Copilot + vim for me is faster, and less frustrating tbh, than vim without Copilot. Typing obvious things is a PITA, and in code we type a lot of obvious things.
- lumb63 3y ago
  The hype around AI coding assistants has recently inspired me to improve my efficiency in writing code. I started using NeoVim instead of vim to get access to LSP, for autocomplete. I’ve found it actually slows me down because I can type nearly anything faster than the LSP can synthesize a response and I’m able to visually process the options, select one, and input it into the computer. I’ve never compared against an AI coding assistant, so maybe that’s different, but my experience has been that fast typing speed combined with understanding of the task at hand and what code must be written nullifies almost all benefit of a coding assistant.
  - gfodor 3y ago
    An AI coding assistant is different, it will write an entire loop, including the body, with proper guards, and so on, in 1-2 seconds.
    - couchand 3y ago
      Maybe... or maybe it's got the same off-by-one error from the StackOverflow answer it's parrotting?
      - gfodor 3y ago
        it's still faster
cornel_io 3y ago
Have you tried to develop in a language or environment that you have 0 familiarity with? I find in those cases I'm up and running at least 3-4x as fast, cutting weeks off the learning curve.

relativeMeans 3y ago

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