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The first 7 potential “Gatekeepers” under the EU Digital Markets Act

18 points by fariszr 3y ago

justinclift 3y ago
Seems kind of weird that Google isn't on that list.
- perceptronas 3y ago
  What about number one – Alphabet?
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Gah. Yeah, you're right. I must need more coffee or something. :)
thefounder 3y ago
Finally some good news for consumers
- musicale 3y ago
  Maybe Google will have to permit an Amazon app store for Android. That will be a great improvement I'm sure.
  - LelouBil 3y ago
    It already exists (and has since 2011) : https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get/android https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get/android You just have to sideload it.
ronsor 3y ago
ByteDance is on there? The only thing I know they make is TikTok.
- LelouBil 3y ago
  They have : 1. A size that impacts the internal market [of the EU] 2. The control of an important gateway for business users towards final consumers (because of ads) 3. An entrenched and durable position See : https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_6423 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_...
Pet_Ant 3y ago
ByteDance (aka TikTok) but not Twitter?
- mahmoudhossam 3y ago
  Elon already took care of that
  - musicale 3y ago
    He's playing the long game.
- jacooper 3y ago
  Or he did an Elon and broke the law by not notifying them
2Gkashmiri 3y ago
Geeee..... Can't wait to have interop messaging without having to rely on mobile number based signups. Matrix-whatsapp connection and you're golden. WhatsApp users can stay there while I can at least talk to them somewhat.
- intothemild 3y ago
  I'm very curious how the interop messaging will work. I think most people I've spoken to all have the same worry, Apple.
Arathorn 3y ago
Meanwhile, lots of progress in the IETF MIMI working group on standardising a protocol for DMA messaging interoperability using MLS for end-to-end encryption - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ralston-mimi-linearized-matrix/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ralston-mimi-lineariz... is the proposal from team Matrix :)
musicale 3y ago
Looking forward to Steam on Xbox.
- ygjb 3y ago
  I think it's really interesting that Sony is not on that list. It is self-declared, but Sony had > 75B€ in revenue in EU in 2022, I would guess has more than 10k business users across it's lines of business, and guessing from the sales of PS4 and PS5 units alone must be close, if not over the monthly active users threshold. All things considered, Nintendo has a bit of a climb to get to those numbers.

18 points by fariszr 3y ago

justinclift 3y ago

Seems kind of weird that Google isn't on that list.

perceptronas 3y ago
What about number one – Alphabet?
- justinclift 3y ago
  Gah. Yeah, you're right. I must need more coffee or something. :)

thefounder 3y ago

Finally some good news for consumers

musicale 3y ago
Maybe Google will have to permit an Amazon app store for Android. That will be a great improvement I'm sure.
- LelouBil 3y ago
  It already exists (and has since 2011) : https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get/android https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get/android You just have to sideload it.

ronsor 3y ago

ByteDance is on there? The only thing I know they make is TikTok.

LelouBil 3y ago
They have : 1. A size that impacts the internal market [of the EU] 2. The control of an important gateway for business users towards final consumers (because of ads) 3. An entrenched and durable position See : https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_6423 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_...

Pet_Ant 3y ago

ByteDance (aka TikTok) but not Twitter?

mahmoudhossam 3y ago
Elon already took care of that
- musicale 3y ago
  He's playing the long game.
jacooper 3y ago
Or he did an Elon and broke the law by not notifying them

2Gkashmiri 3y ago

Geeee..... Can't wait to have interop messaging without having to rely on mobile number based signups. Matrix-whatsapp connection and you're golden. WhatsApp users can stay there while I can at least talk to them somewhat.

intothemild 3y ago
I'm very curious how the interop messaging will work. I think most people I've spoken to all have the same worry, Apple.

Arathorn 3y ago

Meanwhile, lots of progress in the IETF MIMI working group on standardising a protocol for DMA messaging interoperability using MLS for end-to-end encryption - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ralston-mimi-linearized-matrix/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ralston-mimi-lineariz... is the proposal from team Matrix :)

musicale 3y ago

Looking forward to Steam on Xbox.

ygjb 3y ago
I think it's really interesting that Sony is not on that list. It is self-declared, but Sony had > 75B€ in revenue in EU in 2022, I would guess has more than 10k business users across it's lines of business, and guessing from the sales of PS4 and PS5 units alone must be close, if not over the monthly active users threshold. All things considered, Nintendo has a bit of a climb to get to those numbers.