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CentOS Stream is at least as good as CentOS (probably better) was before Red Hat "acquired" it.[1] It's funny how rose-colored people's memories or suppositions

by jzb 3y ago

CentOS Stream is at least as good as CentOS (probably better) was before Red Hat "acquired" it.[1] It's funny how rose-colored people's memories or suppositions about the past are. Basically - there's never been a bug-for-bug compatible RHEL clone that shipped quickly until Red Hat made it possible to do. Stream isn't a product, it's a project. And it should be a project. If Rocky or somebody else wants to add value and make it a product, they can do the work to do so. Rocky/CIQ, in particular, has made all kinds of noise about how Rocky is the "stable foundation you can build on and rely on for years to come." Well... Red Hat has decided to stop making it super-easy. It's a bummer that this hits users who were never potential revenue sources for Red Hat/RHEL, but I can just hear investors asking "why the ever-loving ** are you making it so easy for others to clone your biggest product?" [1] https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/07/03/red-hat-and-the-clone-wars-iii-the-dawn-of-centos/ https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/07/03/red-hat-and-the-clon...

indymike 3y ago
< I can just hear investors asking "why the ever-loving * are you making it so easy for others to clone your biggest product?" It is telling that no one in the meeting could actually answer that: "We still face formidable competition, and we do not believe our moat will hold for more than 12-18 months before whatever replaces us in the market emerges and begins rapidly eroding market share, resulting in dwindling profits and share prices. By allowing an unofficial free-tier -- a clone, as you say -- of our enterprise product, we keep developers from rapidly switching to Debian and it's derivatives. Once that happens, the hosting and enterprise data center markets will collapse irretrievably leaving us with only legacy customers who will leave, one server age-out at a time."
- Nux 3y ago
  Precisely. It's pretty incredible. Even with CentOS they were losing ground to the competition, it's going to accelerate going forward.

by jzb 3y ago

indymike 3y ago

< I can just hear investors asking "why the ever-loving * are you making it so easy for others to clone your biggest product?" It is telling that no one in the meeting could actually answer that: "We still face formidable competition, and we do not believe our moat will hold for more than 12-18 months before whatever replaces us in the market emerges and begins rapidly eroding market share, resulting in dwindling profits and share prices. By allowing an unofficial free-tier -- a clone, as you say -- of our enterprise product, we keep developers from rapidly switching to Debian and it's derivatives. Once that happens, the hosting and enterprise data center markets will collapse irretrievably leaving us with only legacy customers who will leave, one server age-out at a time."

Nux 3y ago
Precisely. It's pretty incredible. Even with CentOS they were losing ground to the competition, it's going to accelerate going forward.