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I'd argue most people benefit by putting that data into another jurisdiction. I.e. can your local law enforcement ping an email over to your ISP and just be ha

I'd argue most people benefit by putting that data into another jurisdiction. I.e. can your local law enforcement ping an email over to your ISP and just be handed years worth of IPs accessed? Or is there slightly more friction? Put another way if I used an exit in Tehran how easy would it be to get my data for Norwegian law enforcement? Even if the end point was 4g in Oslo?

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
Looking at how insistent many authoritarian regimes are at forcing international companies to host data in their own jurisdiction, you're probably right. I live in one of those countries and definitely prefer certain VPN and hosting companies to my own ISP.
raesene9 3y ago
yeah the national law aspect is interesting, and I could see it really taking off as new restrictive laws get passed in specific countries. To take one example the UK Online Safety Bill could make access to a load of content trickier (or even cause companies to stop offering services in the UK) at which time I expect a load of UK people will start using VPNs to shift their traffic to appear to come from non-UK locations.
cf141q5325 3y ago
Especially as you are more and more at risk of wrongful convictions based on (erroneous) big data and stupid laws. Nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide only works with a perfect system which dont exist outside of fairy tales. Also dont think those are contradicting concerns. Be careful with what you trust which ISP or VPN provider with. Thinking you are good with just going with either category instead of the other is a recipe for disaster. Also worth mentioning that to lock your ISP properly out, take a look at hardware firewalls with whitelists and properly chosen signatures for the vpn tunnel. Especially if they are forcing a router into your home network.

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I'd argue most people benefit by putting that data into another jurisdiction. I.e. can your local law enforcement ping an email over to your ISP and just be ha

by psychphysic 3y ago

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
Looking at how insistent many authoritarian regimes are at forcing international companies to host data in their own jurisdiction, you're probably right. I live in one of those countries and definitely prefer certain VPN and hosting companies to my own ISP.
raesene9 3y ago
yeah the national law aspect is interesting, and I could see it really taking off as new restrictive laws get passed in specific countries. To take one example the UK Online Safety Bill could make access to a load of content trickier (or even cause companies to stop offering services in the UK) at which time I expect a load of UK people will start using VPNs to shift their traffic to appear to come from non-UK locations.
cf141q5325 3y ago
Especially as you are more and more at risk of wrongful convictions based on (erroneous) big data and stupid laws. Nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide only works with a perfect system which dont exist outside of fairy tales. Also dont think those are contradicting concerns. Be careful with what you trust which ISP or VPN provider with. Thinking you are good with just going with either category instead of the other is a recipe for disaster. Also worth mentioning that to lock your ISP properly out, take a look at hardware firewalls with whitelists and properly chosen signatures for the vpn tunnel. Especially if they are forcing a router into your home network.