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I mostly play managemen/city builder style games like Cities Skylines or Factorio. Have you tried any of those types of games and if so what's been your experie

I mostly play managemen/city builder style games like Cities Skylines or Factorio. Have you tried any of those types of games and if so what's been your experience?

ekianjo 3y ago
the trackpads work well with these kind of games. As long as you don't expect to act in urgency - typically building / management games work very well with this device.
IggleSniggle 3y ago
I play a ton of these on Deck. Very satisfied with it. I am also a pause - command - unpause kind of player though. But the trackpads work better than you'd expect, and often have community layouts for the controller than add things that make it even nicer than playing with mouse and keyboard (the rotary menus for city overlays are awesome)
- klik99 3y ago
  “Better than you expect” but still not ideal. It’s doable, but I just don’t get the same enjoyment out of mouse heavy games. But with cloud save it can be great to dip in when not at the computer
  - zhynn 3y ago
    The dock is not too bad an experience either. I have played RTS/strategy games on the deck using the dock/mouse/keyboard/monitor. It's a bit fiddly getting the resolution to work well on the monitor, the deck has everything optimized for its own screen size, and anything bigger than 720 makes it sweat. But it does work, and especially for older titles, it's great. It does enough of what I wanted from my gaming PC, that I just gave my older PC to a relative.
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byhemechi 3y ago
i doubt the steam deck has enough ram to handle cities skylines, i pretty frequently hit 20 gb on larger populations
- pbmonster 3y ago
  That's with mods, right? If you play vanilla, the Deck's 16GByte should be plenty. Most cities will hit the asset limit long before needing this much RAM.
  - byhemechi 3y ago
    That's fair, but i'd argue that mods are a pretty essential part of the game for most people
    - plucas 3y ago
      That sounds like a bold statement. I would imagine the large majority of players of any mass-market title don’t know about or use any non-built-in mods.
      - input_sh 3y ago
        It really is not a bold statement when specifically talking about Cities Skylines. That game would be nothing without its community of modders, it's what kept the game alive. For example, you can only unlock 11% of a map without a mod and even "mod free" playthroughs you'll find on YouTube still have to use a couple of them that don't affect the gameplay. Sure, there are console players that have no means of installing a mod, but I'd be shocked if even 10% of PC players didn't use at least a couple.
        Aachen 3y ago
        > It really is not a bold statement when specifically talking about Cities Skylines. That game would be nothing without its community of modders After being just about finished with the game, I decided to try some mods. Things that should address pain points, like indeed not actually being able to use most of the map, and traffic management. The traffic turned into so much micromanagement to get cars to pick the right lane, and every time you made a change anywhere it required updating half a dozen other intersections as well, it just wasn't fun to grow the city bigger than possible in vanilla. I remember one of the last games being an attempt at public transport only, where housing and shopping and such were accessible only by taking the subway. That worked super well in some aspects, and it's fun to design the mass transportation systems to underpin that city, but Skylines is so much geared towards vehicles that I didn't feel this was a proper city either. (From what I remember of a single game I played five years ago.) Anyway, what I'm trying to say: based on my own and my girlfriend's experience, not everyone plays with memory-hungry mods, or any mods at all
morsch 3y ago
Ymmv. Personally, I find the trackpad too cumbersome and only ever play games that are suited to the gamepad.
sofixa 3y ago
I haven't played Cities Skylines on the Deck, but other mouse + some keyboard management games (Victoria, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron 4 (to a lesser extent), Football Manager) are perfectly fine. It takes some adjustment to get the proper layout that makes sense with any shortcuts you might want (e.g. pause, adjust speed, open this or that menu) but they work perfectly fine.
gpderetta 3y ago
I have played Stellaris and Oxygen Not Included and they work surprisingly well. As noted elsethread, lot of pause-action-unpause though.

I mostly play managemen/city builder style games like Cities Skylines or Factorio. Have you tried any of those types of games and if so what's been your experience?

ekianjo 3y ago

the trackpads work well with these kind of games. As long as you don't expect to act in urgency - typically building / management games work very well with this device.

IggleSniggle 3y ago

I play a ton of these on Deck. Very satisfied with it. I am also a pause - command - unpause kind of player though. But the trackpads work better than you'd expect, and often have community layouts for the controller than add things that make it even nicer than playing with mouse and keyboard (the rotary menus for city overlays are awesome)

klik99 3y ago
“Better than you expect” but still not ideal. It’s doable, but I just don’t get the same enjoyment out of mouse heavy games. But with cloud save it can be great to dip in when not at the computer
- zhynn 3y ago
  The dock is not too bad an experience either. I have played RTS/strategy games on the deck using the dock/mouse/keyboard/monitor. It's a bit fiddly getting the resolution to work well on the monitor, the deck has everything optimized for its own screen size, and anything bigger than 720 makes it sweat. But it does work, and especially for older titles, it's great. It does enough of what I wanted from my gaming PC, that I just gave my older PC to a relative.

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byhemechi 3y ago

i doubt the steam deck has enough ram to handle cities skylines, i pretty frequently hit 20 gb on larger populations

pbmonster 3y ago
That's with mods, right? If you play vanilla, the Deck's 16GByte should be plenty. Most cities will hit the asset limit long before needing this much RAM.
- byhemechi 3y ago
  That's fair, but i'd argue that mods are a pretty essential part of the game for most people
  - plucas 3y ago
    That sounds like a bold statement. I would imagine the large majority of players of any mass-market title don’t know about or use any non-built-in mods.
    - input_sh 3y ago
      It really is not a bold statement when specifically talking about Cities Skylines. That game would be nothing without its community of modders, it's what kept the game alive. For example, you can only unlock 11% of a map without a mod and even "mod free" playthroughs you'll find on YouTube still have to use a couple of them that don't affect the gameplay. Sure, there are console players that have no means of installing a mod, but I'd be shocked if even 10% of PC players didn't use at least a couple.
      - Aachen 3y ago
        > It really is not a bold statement when specifically talking about Cities Skylines. That game would be nothing without its community of modders After being just about finished with the game, I decided to try some mods. Things that should address pain points, like indeed not actually being able to use most of the map, and traffic management. The traffic turned into so much micromanagement to get cars to pick the right lane, and every time you made a change anywhere it required updating half a dozen other intersections as well, it just wasn't fun to grow the city bigger than possible in vanilla. I remember one of the last games being an attempt at public transport only, where housing and shopping and such were accessible only by taking the subway. That worked super well in some aspects, and it's fun to design the mass transportation systems to underpin that city, but Skylines is so much geared towards vehicles that I didn't feel this was a proper city either. (From what I remember of a single game I played five years ago.) Anyway, what I'm trying to say: based on my own and my girlfriend's experience, not everyone plays with memory-hungry mods, or any mods at all

morsch 3y ago

Ymmv. Personally, I find the trackpad too cumbersome and only ever play games that are suited to the gamepad.

sofixa 3y ago

I haven't played Cities Skylines on the Deck, but other mouse + some keyboard management games (Victoria, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron 4 (to a lesser extent), Football Manager) are perfectly fine. It takes some adjustment to get the proper layout that makes sense with any shortcuts you might want (e.g. pause, adjust speed, open this or that menu) but they work perfectly fine.

gpderetta 3y ago

I have played Stellaris and Oxygen Not Included and they work surprisingly well. As noted elsethread, lot of pause-action-unpause though.