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You mean like how Elon Musk has shadowbanned pro-Ukrainian talk, such as Kyiv Independent? All pro-Ukrainian sources do not trickle up the timelines anymore. T

You mean like how Elon Musk has shadowbanned pro-Ukrainian talk, such as Kyiv Independent? All pro-Ukrainian sources do not trickle up the timelines anymore. Twitter also puts Ukrainians soldiers petting-puppies and/or showing off their cats behind the age-restriction filters. -------- Before, Twitter had a committee and moderators who you could talk to about these shadowbans and other such moderation decisions. Today, all those have been fired, and strangely pro-Russians are being boosted... while pro-Ukrainians are being shadowbanned.

valval 3y ago
I doubt what you're saying is even close to true. Hand out the evidence.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shadowbanned-on-twitter/ https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shad... https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who-write-about-russians-blowing-up-the-kakhovska-hpp-i53385 https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who... ----------------- Something like this came up as age-restricted: https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994 https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994
  - valval 3y ago
    A Ukrainian news site seems like great evidence indeed.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      Do you expect the Russians to talk about Ukrainian accounts getting shadowbanned on Twitter? Of course this news would come from Ukrainian sources. --------------- https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_deboosted_nafo_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_d... Its pretty obvious too. Traffic to Ukrainian-meme accounts dropped significantly. Anyone following Ukrainian accounts saw traffic go from thousands+ into just single-digits when the deboosting / shadowbans started. I am part of that crowd who visited Ukrainian memes and saw them disappear from Twitter. So consider _ME_ to be a source on this as well.
      - philwelch 3y ago
        Maybe Twitter just stopped artificially boosting pro-Ukraine content.
        dragontamer 3y ago
        And it coincidentally matched all these Ukrainian videos being locked behind age-verification? Again, Ukrainian memes include a bunch of soldiers petting cats or dogs, or helping kids. Its not all frontline war footage. In fact, the meme accounts tend to be more tailored towards the cat videos. The frontline footage accounts absolutely should be age-verified. But the meme accounts getting age-locked proves that Twitter suddenly had a change of heart over Ukrainians.
        philwelch 3y ago
        I’ve hardly seen any age verification on war content, though to be fair I don’t follow a lot of the propaganda (“meme”) accounts you’re discussing. Also, Twitter doesn’t have an age verification mechanism; it just sort of requires you to click through to see images that have been tagged as sensitive content.
        dragontamer 3y ago
        They've basically moved onto https://nafo.uk https://nafo.uk / Mastodon instance now, if you wanna see what its mostly about. (I guess I see on Mastodon.world as well) Twitter is obviously hostile to them, so they were basically forced to move. Given that Threads is likely going to be Mastodon/Fediverse compatible, that basically means that pro-Ukrainian side will be migrating off of Twitter and likely be compatible with Meta / Instagram Threads.
        philwelch 3y ago
        Good for them. I’m mostly interested in OSINT content, not so much war propaganda.
inDigiNeous 3y ago
Don't know about that, but before Musk the shadowbans were just a theory and I remember Jack Dorsey even denying existence of them. The committee twitter had before was in close collaboration with FBI. Currently twitter is one of the only of the bigger social medias, where you can even discuss controversial topics and see discussion around those.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  Better to be in collaboration with FBI than the current set of Twitter executives who seem to be pushing pro-Russian talking points and shadow-banning Ukrainians.

valval 3y ago

I doubt what you're saying is even close to true. Hand out the evidence.

dragontamer 3y ago
https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shadowbanned-on-twitter/ https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shad... https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who-write-about-russians-blowing-up-the-kakhovska-hpp-i53385 https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who... ----------------- Something like this came up as age-restricted: https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994 https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994
- valval 3y ago
  A Ukrainian news site seems like great evidence indeed.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    Do you expect the Russians to talk about Ukrainian accounts getting shadowbanned on Twitter? Of course this news would come from Ukrainian sources. --------------- https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_deboosted_nafo_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_d... Its pretty obvious too. Traffic to Ukrainian-meme accounts dropped significantly. Anyone following Ukrainian accounts saw traffic go from thousands+ into just single-digits when the deboosting / shadowbans started. I am part of that crowd who visited Ukrainian memes and saw them disappear from Twitter. So consider _ME_ to be a source on this as well.
    - philwelch 3y ago
      Maybe Twitter just stopped artificially boosting pro-Ukraine content.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        And it coincidentally matched all these Ukrainian videos being locked behind age-verification? Again, Ukrainian memes include a bunch of soldiers petting cats or dogs, or helping kids. Its not all frontline war footage. In fact, the meme accounts tend to be more tailored towards the cat videos. The frontline footage accounts absolutely should be age-verified. But the meme accounts getting age-locked proves that Twitter suddenly had a change of heart over Ukrainians.
        philwelch 3y ago
        I’ve hardly seen any age verification on war content, though to be fair I don’t follow a lot of the propaganda (“meme”) accounts you’re discussing. Also, Twitter doesn’t have an age verification mechanism; it just sort of requires you to click through to see images that have been tagged as sensitive content.
        dragontamer 3y ago
        They've basically moved onto https://nafo.uk https://nafo.uk / Mastodon instance now, if you wanna see what its mostly about. (I guess I see on Mastodon.world as well) Twitter is obviously hostile to them, so they were basically forced to move. Given that Threads is likely going to be Mastodon/Fediverse compatible, that basically means that pro-Ukrainian side will be migrating off of Twitter and likely be compatible with Meta / Instagram Threads.
        philwelch 3y ago
        Good for them. I’m mostly interested in OSINT content, not so much war propaganda.

inDigiNeous 3y ago

Don't know about that, but before Musk the shadowbans were just a theory and I remember Jack Dorsey even denying existence of them. The committee twitter had before was in close collaboration with FBI. Currently twitter is one of the only of the bigger social medias, where you can even discuss controversial topics and see discussion around those.

dragontamer 3y ago
Better to be in collaboration with FBI than the current set of Twitter executives who seem to be pushing pro-Russian talking points and shadow-banning Ukrainians.