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> although most folks in the EU want that for nationalistic reasons and to prop up their own industries Sources for this extraordinary claim, please. As an E
by piva00 3y ago
> although most folks in the EU want that for nationalistic reasons and to prop up their own industries
Sources for this extraordinary claim, please.
As an EU citizen I'm interested in the EU protecting my privacy, not for nationalistic reasons, not to prop up EU's industries. I care that my data isn't willy-nilly given away under some opaque mechanisms controlled by large corporations, because as many here on HN like to remind me: capitalism is amoral, this is some regulation instilling morals into the system.
I want to be aware and protected about where my data is being used, for what purposes, and I want to have the power to control how corporations can use my data, or if they can use it at all. This kind of data can be modeled into a version of what a system sees as "me", through the interactions I had with it, building a profile of what moves, and interests me, I want to be able to know and control who can know, and to what degree, who I am.
If you are against that, please explain why.
- supriyo-biswas 3y agoI don’t object to the consent requirements for marketing, however, please see [1] for the justification behind my stated position. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36584739 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36584739
- bemusedthrow75 3y agoYour citation is... your own still-unsupported opinion? It's not really responsive is it :-) The EU has a fundamentally different viewpoint on data privacy to the USA. And they are entitled to it. The EU has roughly as many citizens as the USA under a single governance; why should they not collectively argue? Many Europeans do, also, think the USA is mad on other issues and are unwilling to see a situation where the USA's chosen solutions to things are the de facto solutions. They see data privacy as one of the last opportunities to resist that. (Alas here in the UK we decided we didn't want to be part of that solidarity, and we are apparently desperate to capitulate.) As a side note, why is it only ever non-American states that are said to "prop up" their own businesses? It's a two-way street.
- Aerroon 3y agoThe best and only real way to protect your data is to not give it away in the first place. But that would require you a browser that doesn't leak data like a firehose or not using the website. The regulation just makes sure Europe stays unimportant in tech. We will always be a secondary market that services get taken to once they've become successful elsewhere. It's not even about any specific regulation anymore. Just the fact that they've been so trigger happy with regulations is enough to chase away investors and startups. I would also like to remind people that the EU did adopt the Data Retention Directive in the past that forced ISPs to keep logs of every website people visited. That kind of soured any belief I had of EU politicians caring about our privacy. >According to the Data Retention Directive, EU member states had to store information on all citizens' telecommunications data (phone and internet connections) for a minimum of six months and at most twenty-four months, to be delivered on demand to police authorities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive