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> they will probably perform even more invasive tricks like finger printing to replace the cookie requirement It's clear you didn't even bother to look at plau

> they will probably perform even more invasive tricks like finger printing to replace the cookie requirement It's clear you didn't even bother to look at plausibles data policy [1] before assuming what it does and doesn't collect. The TL;DR: it does not fingerprint, and it does not collect any identifiable information, be it about your device or your person. > Bottom line, the website visitors data is still logged, stored and tracked - only now with a different actor. Only basic device info is logged (not even IP addresses are stored). And it's very easy to self host so that different actor may be yourself. [1]: https://plausible.io/data-policy#first-thing-first-what-we-collect-and-what-we-use-it-for https://plausible.io/data-policy#first-thing-first-what-we-c...

j-a-a-p 3y ago
I indeed do not know Plausible and any of their motivations. Google Analytics also does not provide PII to their end users per se. But I have seen many tools and solutions do just about anything to circumvent that. Merging analytics with transactional data and site logs. Adding company info to visitor data. There is an entire industry there. So, an imaginable use case would be to self host it. Intercept to circumvent the limitation. The reason why I am so cynical is not because of the motivations of Google Analytics or Plausible. It is what motivates the end users, the companies who are using these statistics.
- jhpacker 3y ago
  I do know Plausible, and their motivation is to make a sustainable business providing basic web analytics, which is why they charge for their service and Google doesn't. The data they provide to the users of their service is like an order of magnitude less detailed than what Google provides. I get the cynicism about the industry in general since Google led this merger between web analytics and advertising, but there are plenty of providers in the analytics space that aren't following that path.

j-a-a-p 3y ago

I indeed do not know Plausible and any of their motivations. Google Analytics also does not provide PII to their end users per se. But I have seen many tools and solutions do just about anything to circumvent that. Merging analytics with transactional data and site logs. Adding company info to visitor data. There is an entire industry there. So, an imaginable use case would be to self host it. Intercept to circumvent the limitation. The reason why I am so cynical is not because of the motivations of Google Analytics or Plausible. It is what motivates the end users, the companies who are using these statistics.

jhpacker 3y ago
I do know Plausible, and their motivation is to make a sustainable business providing basic web analytics, which is why they charge for their service and Google doesn't. The data they provide to the users of their service is like an order of magnitude less detailed than what Google provides. I get the cynicism about the industry in general since Google led this merger between web analytics and advertising, but there are plenty of providers in the analytics space that aren't following that path.