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why? then what are the alternatives of google analytics. Google is big guient that are collecting all world data. alternative platforms are doing the same. We

why? then what are the alternatives of google analytics. Google is big guient that are collecting all world data. alternative platforms are doing the same. We are not secure anywhere i think. Privacy is already brocken, no options.

Nextgrid 3y ago
> then what are the alternatives Don't stalk people is the alternative.
- AbhiAmbad 3y ago
  I am not stalking anything. I am asking not suggesting anything. Just read the comment first and react on that. No manners
perlgeek 3y ago
> Privacy is already brocken, no options. And thus you question every attempt to fix it?
- AbhiAmbad 3y ago
  Yes, We need anaytics for our website. even for ranking on search engine. There is no other option. GA, GTM, GSC are the top tools we have to use. If you are a business website owner
  - input_sh 3y ago
    Spin up your own analytics from logs and voila!
  - cuu508 3y ago
    There are plenty of business websites that rank on search engines and don't use GA.
poniko 3y ago
Because of the law in US that the governments have right to all data stored on any server that a US company or its subsidiaritets own. That clash with the EU GDPR law and the fact that Sweden categorize IP-adress as a Privacy data point. I.e they can switch to a European vendor that do tracking and analytics.
- AbhiAmbad 3y ago
  yeah, This is the great option also.
- he0001 3y ago
  > the fact that Sweden categorize IP-adress as a Privacy data point Static IP-adresses are considered identity by EU court[0]. There have been several verdicts where EU court have ruled them subjective to GDPR. [0] https://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?language=en&num=C-70/10 https://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?language=en&num=C-70...
  - poniko 3y ago
    yes? You can still store data within Sweden/EU that contains GDPR data, you just need to have a valid reason and comply with the GDPR rules i.e remove the data when you don't need them for the reason you where saving them. Store the data outside EU is never ok.
    - alkonaut 3y ago
      But if you wash the IP and any other PII then you can store it anywhere? So why store IP? Is it because GA doesn't offer an option to wipe PII from the messages?
      - poniko 3y ago
        This is where it gets tricky and why I need to find out more details about the new rulings. Google does not store IP when the user is from the EU but this still seems inadequate to the IMY. https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/12017362?hl=en https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/12017362?hl=en

Nextgrid 3y ago

> then what are the alternatives Don't stalk people is the alternative.

AbhiAmbad 3y ago
I am not stalking anything. I am asking not suggesting anything. Just read the comment first and react on that. No manners

perlgeek 3y ago

> Privacy is already brocken, no options. And thus you question every attempt to fix it?

AbhiAmbad 3y ago
Yes, We need anaytics for our website. even for ranking on search engine. There is no other option. GA, GTM, GSC are the top tools we have to use. If you are a business website owner
- input_sh 3y ago
  Spin up your own analytics from logs and voila!
- cuu508 3y ago
  There are plenty of business websites that rank on search engines and don't use GA.

poniko 3y ago

Because of the law in US that the governments have right to all data stored on any server that a US company or its subsidiaritets own. That clash with the EU GDPR law and the fact that Sweden categorize IP-adress as a Privacy data point. I.e they can switch to a European vendor that do tracking and analytics.

AbhiAmbad 3y ago
yeah, This is the great option also.
he0001 3y ago
> the fact that Sweden categorize IP-adress as a Privacy data point Static IP-adresses are considered identity by EU court[0]. There have been several verdicts where EU court have ruled them subjective to GDPR. [0] https://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?language=en&num=C-70/10 https://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?language=en&num=C-70...
- poniko 3y ago
  yes? You can still store data within Sweden/EU that contains GDPR data, you just need to have a valid reason and comply with the GDPR rules i.e remove the data when you don't need them for the reason you where saving them. Store the data outside EU is never ok.
  - alkonaut 3y ago
    But if you wash the IP and any other PII then you can store it anywhere? So why store IP? Is it because GA doesn't offer an option to wipe PII from the messages?
    - poniko 3y ago
      This is where it gets tricky and why I need to find out more details about the new rulings. Google does not store IP when the user is from the EU but this still seems inadequate to the IMY. https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/12017362?hl=en https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/12017362?hl=en